Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    
    the caller from North Carolina? really zinged Trip about not mentioning
    the Amiga.  The Amiga logo was visible whenever they showed the
    screen.  I was kinda puzzled by the plug for Deluxe Paint on the
    Apple... the topic was desktop video, not some paint program.  Maybe
    that was part of the deal to get him demo deluxe video.
    
    Overall a nice show about desktop video, pity that it only runs
    on an Amiga  heh heh heh...  not even on the 20mhz 80386 that the
    caller from Computerland asked about.
    
    Interesting timing for that show and the next one given that the
    A500 ads just recently started.  Possibly some advertising dollars
    are behind this sudden interest?
    
    -Dave
    

    Really?  Someone called in and yelled at Trip?  Ha Ha... I changed
    stations after the Amiga demo.  
    
    Yes, I did notice the Amiga logo on the monitor.  But I think a
    couple of hundred thousand other people may have missed it.  It
    looked to me like they were very deliberately trying to infer that
    this was an Apple software package.  
    
    Trip Hawkins is one of the Amiga's staunchest champions.  I think
    the man has vision.  Maybe your right about the show insisting that
    an Apple product be pictured, to make things look respectable.
    
    Actually, compared to VideoScape and Sculpt, DVideo is a little
    off the cutting edge.  I'd really like to see them demo some stuff
    that only the Amiga can do.  I hope Al Duncan does some heavy
    multitasking demos, but I have a bad feeling that the theme of the
    A2000 demo is going to be 'Here's a new clone, and oh, yeah, it
    has this graphics and sound and multitasking mode...'

    No, i suspect Trip was the one pushing for the Apple ][GS to be there.
    Guess Deluxe Paint for it hasn't been selling too well lately.
    
    Trip did recover nicely from the Amiga callers... he blamed the
    "oversight" on shortness of time for the demo and praised the Amiga
    500, 1000, and 2000.  And sortof dumped on all other systems.
    This is first time i've seen him in action, i got the impression
    he was slowly learning tact, marketing, etc.  Saying nasty things
    about any computer doesn't help sales.
    
    Al Duncan should be interesting, i like to see marketeers try to
    demo techie stuff.  Almost as much fun as watching the Home Shopping
    Network trying to sell computers.  I suspect you are correct, they
    will concentrate on the pc clone part of the 2000.  But if it sells
    a few more 2000s... just think of it as an expensive XT with a
    very fancy graphics board built into the motherboard (has a 68000,
    custom chips, even slots on it for more memory, etc.).
    
    -Dave

    well if he doesn't do a good job...we could all "gang-up" on him
    during the phone in segment...;-)...actually it could be fun!
    

    Max Toy ( the new Big Cheese at CBM ) has decided to come out of
    hiding and demo the A2000 on the December 10 Computer Show, at 10:00
    PM EST.
    
    In related news, EE Times reported that 500,000 Amigae have been
    sold.  Dave Haynie said on Plink that they were looking at around
    1,000,000 systems by mid-1988.  Given that the installed base roughly
    doubled in just six months (due, no doubt to the A500) it seems
    possible.  

    Are you sure about the date?  The Computer Show is usually on Tuesday
    nights, but Dec 10th is a Thursday.

    Sorry, it's December 8 th.
    
    

Re: .5

>    In related news, EE Times reported that 500,000 Amigae have been
>    sold.  Dave Haynie said on Plink that they were looking at around
>    1,000,000 systems by mid-1988.  Given that the installed base roughly
>    doubled in just six months (due, no doubt to the A500) it seems
>    possible.  


Well, Commodore's prediction was that 500,000 Amiga would be sold by
the end of 1987.  Since this is early December, it looks like they are
ahead of schedule.  This might be expected since as anyone who has been
put on a waiting list for a machine knows, Commodore seems to underestimated
the market for the machines.  (It definitely underestimated the market
for the 2000, and drastically (factor of four) underestimated the 
market for the bridgecard.)

An interesting static:

	As of April 1987, the installed base of the Macintosh was only
	1,000,000 machines.

    I tuned into the computer show last night (12/8/87) and the first
    thing the hostess said was "You won't believe this, but....
    our Amiga demo is postponed again."  Seems the guy who was to
    give the demo (Commadore President or something?) suddenly came
    down sick.  Will reschedule as soon as he is feeling better.
    
    Bummer.
    
    Kevin C.

    Yeah, twice they canceled out... You'd think that CBM would have
    at least one other person who knoew how to give a demo?
    
    If I hadn't seen and used an A2000, I'd be inclined to believe that
    the beast didn't exist yet...
    
    Ed.
    

    I believe the head of CBM marketing was supposed to give the original
    2000 demo but he got prempted by Max Toy wanting to do.
    
    Not that i'd suspect Max of faking an illness... but the timing
    for his appearance on a future show will probably put it after Christmas.
    Which strangely enough is when the A2000 ad campaign is supposed
    to start.  He might even be able to demo booting from a hard disk :-)
    
    -dave

    I'll bet TV adds cost less after Christmas.  I wonder if people
    go out and buy a lot of things after Christmas?

    re: .12
    depends on family traditions... My parents liked the idea of exchanging
    cards with money in them instead of traditional presents.  Then
    not only is the stuff cheaper after Christmas, but you have money
    to buy it with.  It also avoids the problem of returning stuff.
    
    -dave