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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

552.0. "Database managers: who has 1st hand experience?" by KIRK::KYZIVAT (Paul Kyzivat) Tue Jun 16 1987 09:21

     I'm interested in a Database Management system, but have no experience
     with anything like the ones available.  I have looked at the notes I
     can find in this file (84, 134, 182, 438), have read the review of
     Superbase in AmigaWorld, and have looked over the ads.  I still I have
     little basis for comparison.  A hands-on might help (I plan to head to
     the Memory Location for that when I can), but it is hard to find
     limitations when trying something like this for the first time. 

     The major players seem to be: 

     - Superbase Personnal & Professional
     - Acquisition
     - Datamat 200 & 300 

     182 and 438.1 have good things to say about Superbase, and it is the
     cheapest of these by a bunch.  However AmigaWorld did note some
     deficiencies, and they usually aren't very critical.  I have found no
     reviews or hands on comments on the others.  (I did hear from the guy
     at The Software Shop that Superbase Professional is not yet
     available.) 

     One thing I have been wondering about is how committed these suppliers
     are to the Amiga in the long run.  All seem to have come out quite
     some time ago, with no obvious indications in the ads that they have
     been updated.  Do they work well with 1.2?
     
     I am not going to run a business from this, so I don't think I need
     too many features.  I am mostly interested in being able to enter data
     via forms, ad-hoc simple queries, perhaps some simple printed listings
     of file contents, etc.  (Must work with LA50 printer driver.)  I am
     interested in it being easy to use and user friendly for the rest of
     my family. 

     I am also somewhat interested in memory and disk efficiency within
     limits.  My wife may need to build some moderately large files
     (several hundred records).  I don't think I can currently imagine
     anything where a floppy can't handle the apparent storage requirements
     of the fields in the records, but how much additional do these systems
     use for indices, etc.? 

     I would appreciate any personal experiences regarding usability and/or
     efficiency of any of the available database managers, expecially
     problems and limitations.

		Paul
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552.1Superbase PersonalDICKNS::MACDONALDWA1OMM Listening 224.28Tue Jun 16 1987 10:295
    Superbase Personal is what I use. Its relational, supports IFF files
    and is the ultimate in ease-of-use. Extremely flexible and comes
    with superb documentation.
    
    Paul
552.2MicroFiche FilerSQM::JMSYNGEJames M Synge, VMS Performance Anal.Wed Jun 17 1987 15:1411
	If you don't have large databases which you need to migrate to
	the new system, I'd recommend looking at MicroFiche Filer.  It's
	been built and sold by Gary Sumat (sp?) in Boston.  He gave a
	presentation on it to the BCS Amiga SIG last month.  It was a very
	impressive database.  The forms management is excellent: you can
	create a form with the mouse.  You position a resizeable box anywhere
	in the form, then select the field to be placed in the box.
	There are/will be ads in AmigaWorld.

James Synge.
552.3nobody else?KIRK::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatThu Jun 18 1987 13:354
    Maybe there aren't any users of Acquisition or Datamat.  I guess that
    says something. 

Paul
552.4Comments on LogistixGLORY::SHIVESThu Jun 18 1987 19:5734
    
    I am not sure that this is what you are looking for, but I have
    Logistix.  It is an integrated spreadsheet/database/graphics package.
    I have found it very easy to use.  Although my needs have kept the
    individual databases/spreadsheets of average size, I have found
    it to be pretty fast as well. 
    
    I only have a 512K Amiga, by the way.  Logistix indicates that it
    has different versions to accomodate the smaller or larger amount
    of memory via use of overlays.  Since I am using the 512K limited
    version, I do have to wait while it swaps in the new overlay, but
    the wait is only a few seconds anyway. Once the overlay is in place
    (and this is how I would assume that the versions with additional
    memory would work), it can process the data quickly.  Notice: I
    AM using relative terms and things like "quickly" are quite subjective.
    It is quick enough for me, but you should decide for yourself
    quantitatively. 
    
    While it cannot perform relational database-style processing, the
    records may be sorted on any of the fields (columns) or combinations.
    Probably the thing I like most about it is the ability to write
    small data entry/retrieval applications using its own macro language.
    It takes care of a significant amount of work an application programmer
    would have to do.
    
    In summary, I understand that Logistix is not strictly a database
    manager; it does other things as well. However, I thought you may
    be interested as a point of comparison. If you would like any more
    information just let me know.
    
    		Mark
    
    P.S. There was an AmigaWorld review of Logistix also.