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| 303.1 | Sounds like the floppies | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Thu Feb 05 1987 05:30 | 10 |
| Re .0:
It sounds like you got bad floppies. You might want to verify that it
is the disks by buying a box of double sided Sonys to see if your problem
persists.
The manual is right, a disk copy or duplicate do format as they go.
A disk copy and a duplicate are the same except for the differences
you noted. Both cause the program sys:system/DiskCopy to run.
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| 303.2 | Some Simple Rules | AUTHOR::MACDONALD | | Thu Feb 05 1987 08:04 | 23 |
| Choosing DUPLICATE is the same as DISKCOPY from CLI.
A few things to keep in mind:
1. You cannot use the RUN DISKCOPY command line. You will
almost certainly get a failed DISKCOPY if you attempt
a background DISKCOPY with the RUN command.
2. Don't try to save money with single-sided diskettes. Buy
the double-sided. I prefer Sony after testing many brands
including Maxell, TDK, Fuji, etc.
3. Never attempt to remove a diskette until that red drive
led goes off. I'd recommend waiting an additional 5 or 10
seconds after the led goes off before removing the diskette.
Failure to with for the led to go off is the single greatest
cause of read/write errors on the Amiga! Rule is to watch
the led not the requester. The requester always appears on the
screen before the led goes out!
Enjoy!
Paul
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| 303.3 | | ECC::JAERVINEN | impersonal name | Thu Feb 05 1987 08:15 | 21 |
| Thanks for the advice... I'll give some other brand of floppies
a try tonight.
I'm pretty sure I waited long enough (I've read the warnings in
this file) before removing any disks but it *was* late at night...
But are there two DISKCOPYs? see below...
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Note 207.6 Building a RAM disk... 6 of 10
TLE::RMEYERS "Randy Meyers" 63 lines 9-DEC-1986 02:07
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Lest someone become confused, there is a program named DiskCopy in both
the c and System directories. However, c/DiskCopy gets its arguments
from the CLI command that starts it while System/DiskCopy gets its
argument from an Intuition message from the Workbench. These are two
distinct programs.
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| 303.4 | | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Thu Feb 05 1987 13:18 | 5 |
| Are you running Workbench 1.1 or 1.2?
I think 1.2 is when they switched to having one DISKCOPY program.
-dave
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| 303.5 | Only one | AUTHOR::MACDONALD | | Thu Feb 05 1987 14:37 | 2 |
| I believe in V1.2, there is only one diskcopy and its located
in the system directory, not the c directory.
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| 303.6 | Was true awhile ago... | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Thu Feb 05 1987 16:08 | 4 |
| Re .3:
My information in 207.6 was indeed old. V1.1 had two different diskcopy
programs; V1.2 has one.
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| 303.7 | | ECC::JAERVINEN | impersonal name | Fri Feb 06 1987 04:35 | 25 |
| I'm bringing it back to the shop today... sigh.
I bough another brand (BASF) floppies; the first attempt to copy
promptly failed.
I did some testing last night (a bit earlier so I think I was in
my full mind). Doing a diskcopy to a brand-new, completely blank,
unformatted disk almost always fails (mostly after all tracks were
written and the program does it's final actions; looks like it is
rereading something, maybe the track(s) containing volume info or
something).
If I format the disk first and then copy, the copy operation sometimes
finishes without any error messages, but the disk is still bad.
Depending on where the error is, I can e.g. work with a copy of
the workbench but sooner or later I hit a bad track.
Running diskdoctor on the disk (right on the copy, before doing
anything else with it) *always* found at least one track with a
hard error (sometimes more). These were on random tracks even on
the same disk, after reformatting and recopying.
This time I am sure I didn't remove any disks while the light is
on. FORMAT does one disk access after a *very long* time...
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| 303.8 | ... | LEDS::ACCIARDI | | Fri Feb 06 1987 07:53 | 18 |
| Sounds like you must have gotten a bad drive, since I have never
heard of anyone getting so many bad disks. Too bad, I hope this
experience doesn't sour you on the Amiga. NEC makes the drives
in early Amigas, you can tell an NEC drive by the loud gronking
noise that the stepper moter makes when the drive seeks.
Later Amigas use the Panasonic drives, which are quieter, and consume
less power.
By the way, it is really not necessary to wait any longer than after
the red LED goes out to eject the disk. In fact, under 1.2, I don't
believe an 'Change Disk' requestors pop up until the red LED is
out.
Anyway, if you find that you need a replacement drive, try to get
the Panasonics. One other friend had problems with the NEC, replaced
it with a Panasonic, and has lived happily ever after.
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| 303.9 | | ECC::JAERVINEN | impersonal name | Fri Feb 06 1987 08:07 | 18 |
| Don't worry, I love it!! I don't know what drive it has, but I found
it very quiet, so maybe it's a Panasonic.
Yes, finally I thought it must be very unlikely to get so many bad
disks - I had 20 TDK disks and tried 6-7 of them, no way - the BASF
disks failed as well, so...
Anyway, I brought the whole thing back, and as I had grabbed their
last Amiga and they didn't know when they will get more, I had my
money back - just checked a couple of other dealers to make sure
I get a replacement for the weekend... I can't wait to *really*
start playing with it (so far, I've used 99% of the time to fight
the bad drive).
BTW, I like the VR241 also - the picture is a bit tiny (as mentioned
elsewhere in this file, but it can be adjusted). But it's really
sharp - selecting suitable colors I could even display about 62
lines of text in interlace mode.
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| 303.10 | | ECC::JAERVINEN | impersonal name | Mon Feb 09 1987 03:19 | 14 |
| Well, the saga has ended (almost) happily... I went off to another
store with my money and got a new one. It works perfectly, no problems
whatsoever with diskcopy.
Only gripe was that Commodore has run out of German keyboards -
the thing had a French keyboard!! But not by mistake, they had
ECOing instructions to turn it into a German keyboard (sticky labels
for the keycaps). A nice color printed ECO instruction - so this
hasn't been a surprise even to them. Seems like the Amiga is selling
better in Germany than in France...
(The broken one I had before had a real german keyboard; in fact,
I would prefer an American keyboard, but they don't deliver them
here).
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