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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

11.0. "AMIGA BASIC ... Problems, Bugs and Fixes" by PENNSY::MELLITZ () Mon May 05 1986 10:02

    The screen, graphics, menu, mouse, and execption handling make
    this quite an attractive programming language. Let's make this
    a note for AMIGA BASIC problem, bugs, and fixes.
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11.1GURU PROBLEMSTRUMAN::LEIMBERGERMon Jul 28 1986 07:006
    I experiance guru meditation errors while working with BASIC.If
    anyone has any information on what wakes the guru please enlighten
    me 
    
    bill
    
11.2Some REFLECTIONSNCCSB::JFISHERJohn B. Fisher @NCO (DTN 367-4259)Mon Jul 28 1986 10:2334
    All sorts of thinks will make the Amiga start to contemplate the
    fate of the world and other transcendental topics... One of the
    most common is running out of memory !!  Yes, the OS on this system
    does not keep track of resources. As a result, when things get tight,
    the OS has no earthly idea of anything that might be able to be
    trashed, etc...
    
    Some solutions:
    
    	1) Be certain you have at least 512K of memory. If you already
    		have that, then 1MB add ons might be a good idea (but
    		try to find a dealer, who will demonstrate that AmigaBasic
    		will work with it -- some programs don't !!)
    
    	2) I also have had occasional problems with AmigaBASIC trashing
    		the system. (Keep the WB disk handy !!  & sometimes
    		it helps to power off & on !!) 
    
    		** SMALL FLAME **
    
    		Why is Microsoft the 'industry leader' in BASIC, when
    		they turn out some of the most inconsistent, memory
    		hogs implementations of BASIC I have ever seen. SIGH!!
    
    		** End Small Flame **
    
    	3) The GURU numbers are occasionally discussed in USENET, and
    		I would recommend that everyone get on the
    		'net.micro.amiga' mailing list. It is very informative.
    
    
    Hope that helps a bit...
    
    	-- John B. Fisher
11.3basic memory crunchTRUMAN::LEIMBERGERTue Jul 29 1986 04:5113
    Thanks John.I am running with 512k now,with no relief probable in
    the near future.It appears that I need to develop some good habits,
    like eraseing my sound arrays when not needed.To any other users
    that may have memory shortages I believe you reclaim memory if you
    unplug yor external drive.(not always desirable)I have no external
    drive so have gotten into the bad habit of loading my entire CLI
    directory into RAM: .This is ok most of the time but,unless you
    really need the CLI the memory is better left available.Is the "FRE"
    command of help? The example in my basic manual leaves me out in
    the cold.Maybe it my inexperiance showing again,but I sure could
    use another example.
    
    bill
11.4<some hints>NCCSB::JFISHERJohn B. Fisher @NCO (DTN 367-4259)Tue Jul 29 1986 11:0316
    You might want to take a look at the CLEAR command to help control
    the amount of memory AmigaBASIC uses...
    
    Re: C: in memory...
    
    		I am going to be writing some utilities/batch files
    		to help switch C: in and out of memory...  As soon
    		as I get my modem, get back from BEST training, and
    		get my C-Kermit....
    
    Till then be aware that AmigaBASIC probably takes almost all of
    256K of memory !!!  (rhetorical question -- just because the Amiga
    can handle 8 MBytes of memory, do the programmers have to take all
    of it ??)
    
    				-- John B. Fisher
11.51.2 & AmigaBasicTRUMAN::LEIMBERGERSat Oct 04 1986 07:526
    I think AmigaBasic is not compatable with ver 1.2 betas.Is there
    something I'm missing,or is this the case.If it is I wonder what
    it will take to upgrade my current basic programs.A lot of good
    PD stuff will be rendered useless.
    
    bill
11.6'tis TrueAUTHOR::MACDONALDCUP/MLSun Oct 05 1986 22:586
    'tis true .. but I'm sure it will not be the case when it is released.
    You'll find that OnLine! will not work correctly in VT100 mode using
    V1.2 Workbench either. The cure there is to run SETMAP USA0 from
    V1.2 CLI before booting OnLine!.
    
    Paul