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| 241.1 | My Team | PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF | Save Waldo Canyon | Thu Jan 30 1992 12:10 | 58 |
| Offense:
QB:
Joe Montana 49er's
Running Backs:
O.J Simpson Bills
Jim Brown Browns
Receivers:
Lynn Swann Steelers
Paul Warfield Browns, Dolphins
Tight End:
John Mackey Colts
Linemen:
Anthony Munoz Bengals
John Hannah Patriots
Art Shell Raiders
Gene Upshaw Raiders
Center:
Mike Webster Steelers
Defense:
Linemen:
Joe Greene Steelers
Bob Lilly Cowboys
Alan Page Vikings
Linebackers:
Lawrence Taylor Giants
Dick Butkus Bears
Jack Lambert Steelers
Jack Ham Steelers
Defensive Backs:
Mel Blount Steelers
Ronnie Lott 49er's
Lem Barney Lions
Herb Adderly Packers
Special Teams:
Punt Return:
Johnny Rodgers Nebraska, CFL ?
Kick Return:
Rocket Ismail Notre Dame, CFL
Punter:
Ray Guy Raiders
Kicker:
George Blanda Raiders
Coach:
Joe Gibbs Redskins
Cheerleaders:
Dallas Cowgirls
It was very hard to leave Walter Payton, Fred Bilitnikoft, Randy Gradishar,
Steve Largent and Kellen Winslow off my list. Gary Anderson and Morton
Anderson are definately better kickers than George Blanda. But with all of
his last second kicks and come from behind victories as a backup QB, I'll
put Blanda on my team anyday.
Keith
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| 241.2 | | ROYALT::ASHE | His name is Honest Abe & he's here to say... | Thu Jan 30 1992 12:48 | 49 |
| Offense:
QB:
Joe Namath Jets
Running Backs:
Gayle Sayers Bears
Jim Brown Browns
Receivers:
Jerry Rice 49ers
Charlie Taylor Skins
Tight End:
Charlie Sanders Lions
Linemen:
Anthony Munoz Bengals
John Hannah Patriots
Art Shell Raiders
Gene Upshaw Raiders
Center:
Jim Otto Raiders
Defense:
Linemen:
Joe Greene Steelers
Alex Karras Lions
Art Donovan Colts
Linebackers:
Lawrence Taylor Giants
Dick Butkus Bears
Jack Lambert Steelers
Ray Nitschke Packers
Defensive Backs:
Mel Blount Steelers
Ronnie Lott 49er's
Lem Barney Lions
Emmitt Thomas Chiefs
Special Teams:
Punt Return:
Deion Sanders Atlanta
Kick Return:
Billy Johnson Houston
Punter:
Ray Guy Raiders
Kicker:
Fred Cox Vikings
Coach:
Don Shula Dolphins
Cheerleaders:
Hold my own tryouts
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| 241.3 | My team from 1973-present ... | EARRTH::BROOKS | Wilt > Russell x 10 | Thu Jan 30 1992 14:46 | 121 |
| Most of this team are players I've seen ...
Offense
QB :
Joe Montana Niners
RB :
Walter Payton Bears
O.J. Simpson Bills
TE :
Kellen Winslow Chargers
WR :
Jerry Rice Niners
Paul Warfield Dolphins/Browns
T :
Anthony Munoz Bengals
Art Shell Raiders
G :
Gene Upshaw Bengals
Ed White Vikings
C :
Mike Webster Steelers
K :
Mark Mosley Washington
Defense :
Ends:
Reggie White Philly
L.C. Greenwood Pittsburgh
Tackles :
Alan Page Vikes
Joe Greene Steelers
Nose Tackle :
Curley Culp Chiefs/Oilers
MLB :
Mike Singletary Bears
ILB :
Jack Lambert Steelers
OLB :
Lawrence Taylor Giants
Ted Hendricks Raiders
CB :
Mel Blount Steelers
Mel Renfro Dallas
S :
Ronnie Lott Niners
Ken Houston Washington
P :
Ray Guy Raiders
Returns :
Billy Johnson Houston/Atlanta
Rick Upchurch Denver
The reserves are ...
Reserves :
QB :
Roger Stabauch Dallas
Short yardage back :
Earl Campbell Houston
Blocking Back :
Jim Braxton Buffalo
3rd WR :
Fred Bilentkoff Raiders
4th WR :
Charlie Joiner Chargers
2nd TE :
Dave Casper Raiders
Extra OL :
Jim Lachey Washington
Bruce Matthews Houston
Mike Munchak Houston
John Hannah Pats
Line :
Lee Roy Selmon Tampa Bay
Randy White Dallas
Buck Buchanhan Chiefs
LB :
Willie Lanier Chiefs
Jack Ham Steelers
DBs :
Deron Cherry Chiefs
Everson Walls Dallas
Jack Tatum Raiders
Apologies to :
Steve Largent, Charlie Taylor, Larry Little, Too Tall Jones, John
Stallworth, Dan Marino, Bill Bergey, Ken Anderson, Morten Anderson,
Reggie Roby, Dave Dalby, Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, and so many
more ....
Doc
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| 241.4 | All-time team (I guess :-) ... | EARRTH::BROOKS | Wilt > Russell x 10 | Thu Jan 30 1992 15:06 | 52 |
| All-time best :
QB :
Joe Montana Niners
RB :
Jim Brown Browns
O.J. Simpson Bills
TE :
John Mackey Colts
Kellen Winslow Chargers
WR :
Jerry Rice Niners
Fred Bilenitkof Raiders
Charlie Taylor Washington
T :
Anthony Munoz Bengals
Jim Parker Colts
G :
Gene Upshaw Raiders
John Hannah Pats
C:
Mel Hein Giants
KR :
Billy Johnson Oilers
Rick Upchurch Denver
DE :
Merlin Olson Rams
Reggie White Eagles
DT :
Joe Greene Steelers
Bob Lilly Dallas
NT :
Curly Culp Houston
MLB :
Dick Butkus Bears
ILB :
Willie Lanier Chiefs
OLB :
L. Taylor Giants
J. Ham Steelers
DB :
Ronnie Lott Niners
Jim Johnson Niners
Dick Lane Lions
Ken Houston Washington
P :
Ray Guy Raiders
K :
Jan Stenerud Chiefs
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| 241.5 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cuimhnich, 13 February 1692 | Thu Jan 30 1992 15:27 | 9 |
| Small nit, Doc.
I think Merlin was a DT, not a DE...
I could be wrong though...
'Saw
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| 241.6 | 8^))) | KEPNUT::DIGGINS | Playdough,Homey,Vitale,BobKnight | Thu Jan 30 1992 16:42 | 5 |
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Not enuff Packers Doc!!
Steve
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| 241.7 | Now here's a Team ;-) | RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO | Is that a Drake's Coffee Cake? | Thu Jan 30 1992 17:04 | 33 |
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Oh boy, this could be fun:
Here's my all time team to party with, have withya in a fight, and John
Madden loves ya team:
QB: Billy Kilmer
RB: Bronko Nagurski
RB: Jim Brown
TE: Mike Dikka
WR: Art Monk
WR: Charlie Taylor
C: Mel Hein
OL: John Hannah, Gene Upshaw, Ron Yary, Jerry Kramer
PK: Lou "the Toe" Groza
DL: Mean Joe Greene, Deacon Jones, Carl Eller
LB: Lawrence Taylor, Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, Ted Hendricks
(NOW THAT"S AN ALL_MADDEN BUNCH!)
DB: Emlen Tunnel, Ronnie Lott, Lem Barney, Mel Renfro
P: Ray Guy
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| 241.8 | | ROYALT::ASHE | His name is Honest Abe & he's here to say... | Thu Jan 30 1992 18:23 | 2 |
| My team was not necesarily a BPA team, just one I'd like to own and
hang out with...
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| 241.9 | Modern players are better than the old guys... | DECWET::METZGER | I'm for the Super Mariners...... | Thu Jan 30 1992 19:01 | 34 |
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QB's: Dan Fouts
Dan Marino
RB's: Gayle Sayers
Barry Sanders
WR's: Fred Biletnokof
Jerry Rice
TE: Kellen Winslow
OL: The Hogs 'circa 1982 -1984 because O-lines play as a team....
Kick Returners...Neon Deon...
Defense
NT: The Fridge
DE: Mean Joe Greene, Deacon Jones
LB's: Mike Singletary, Jack Youngblood, Jack Lambert, Ray Nietche
DB's: Ronnie Lott, Kenny Easley, The guy from the raiders that used to have
stickum all over himself.
Kicker....The half footed wonder...Tom Dempsey?
Punter...Ray Guy...
Metz
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| 241.10 | hereyago | NEST::DESROCHES | Pining for a good P-Name | Fri Jan 31 1992 01:07 | 71 |
| My $.02 worth
QB:
Bart Starr
RB:
Walter Payton
Jim Brown
WR:
Charlie Taylor
Fred Balitnakoff (sp)
TE:
John Mackey
T:
Anthony Munoz
Art Shell
G:
John Hannah
Gene Upshaw
C:
Jim Otto
K:
Jan Stenerud
DE:
Deacon Jones
Reggie White
NG:
Curly Culp
ILB:
Jack Lambert
Willie Lanier
OLB:
Ted Hendricks
Jack Ham
CB:
Wille Brown
Mel Renfro
S:
Ronnie Lott
Ken Houston
P:
Ray Guy
PR:
Mike Nelms
KR:
Gayle Sayers
COACH:
Chuck Noll
JMHO - Coach
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| 241.11 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cuimhnich, 13 February 1692 | Fri Jan 31 1992 07:17 | 1 |
| No one has mentioned big Ben Davidson for DL. What a mountain of a man....
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| 241.12 | | CTHQ2::LEARY | Beano:PreventGasBeforeItStarts | Fri Jan 31 1992 08:55 | 7 |
| No one mentioned Davidson because he had ok talent and was a cheap-shot
artist. Nothing special. Now Alex Karras, there was a mountain of a
DL. Has he been mentioned?
JMHO
MikeL
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| 241.13 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | Plato,Homer,Voltaire,BobKnight | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:00 | 6 |
| Hey MikeL, my favorite NFL moment of all time is Ben Davidson clocking
Joe Willie so hard that he knocked his helmet off! Congrats Metz
on picking William Perry on your all time team. At least someone
in here knows a_athlete when he sees one!
/Don
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| 241.14 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cuimhnich, 13 February 1692 | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:10 | 25 |
| > Hey MikeL, my favorite NFL moment of all time is Ben Davidson clocking
> Joe Willie so hard that he knocked his helmet off! Congrats Metz
I mentioned Ben Davidson because he was such an imposing figure, at a time
when most DL were shorter. And because he was "The meanest SOB in the valley".
I think he was the prototype later refined by guys like Alzado, Deacon Jones
etc etc etc...
Alex Karras was GREAT also.
Has anyone mentioned Sam Huff? Sam Huff almost singlehandedly made
defense a spectacular part of the game.
In the era in which Huff played, defense was considered the poor sister.
Offense garnered the media attention, the better salaries. Then Huff
came along. He had a nose for the ball, he was a hard hitter....
This is a great topic, but it is so tough to pick ONE dream team...8^)
'Saw
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| 241.15 | | CTHQ2::LEARY | Beano:PreventGasBeforeItStarts | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:22 | 16 |
| I liked Huff also 'Saw. The Jints were my fav team when I was knee-high
to a fire hydrant. And Huff says the best and toughest guy he ever
played against was Jim Brown. Remember when Brown would take so long
to get up after a play? Someone asked Huff about it and he said para-
phrase of course, " Yeah, he might look like he's havin' a hard time
gittin' up, but it ain't nuthin like the hard time I have gittin'
him down" I was PO'd when he was traded to da 'Skins.
Speakin' of Davidson, the one play I'll always remember was he
spearin' Lenny Dawson long after the whistle had blown. Half the
Chief team went after him. He got his butt kicked but if I
remember correctly, it took the Chiefs out of their game and the
Raiders took 'em. What games, those Chief-Raider matchups.
MikeL
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| 241.16 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cuimhnich, 13 February 1692 | Fri Jan 31 1992 09:29 | 23 |
| > I liked Huff also 'Saw. The Jints were my fav team when I was knee-high
> to a fire hydrant. And Huff says the best and toughest guy he ever
> played against was Jim Brown. Remember when Brown would take so long
> to get up after a play? Someone asked Huff about it and he said para-
> phrase of course, " Yeah, he might look like he's havin' a hard time
> gittin' up, but it ain't nuthin like the hard time I have gittin'
> him down" I was PO'd when he was traded to da 'Skins.
I've seen films of him hitting Brown, and I think Huff is just being
modest. Those two were definitely a couple of Studs, long before the
term became popular.
> Speakin' of Davidson, the one play I'll always remember was he
> spearin' Lenny Dawson long after the whistle had blown. Half the
> Chief team went after him. He got his butt kicked but if I
> remember correctly, it took the Chiefs out of their game and the
> Raiders took 'em. What games, those Chief-Raider matchups.
Classic. Absolutely Classic... Nothing like a great, hotly contested
rivalry....
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| 241.17 | | RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO | Is that a Drake's Coffee Cake? | Fri Jan 31 1992 10:08 | 19 |
| My favorite Ben Davidson highlight came vs. the COlts and Johnny
Unitas.
Old Johnny U. was flushed from the pocket - and yes, scrambling - he
saw a hole and started running towards the first down marker (okay,
running is stretching it - but being ambulatory in a forward manner) -
and old Ben was on the ground. He kicks up his leg just as Johnny U.
"Rambles" by him - and hits him in the <insert Hawk's favorite boxing
quote here> - as you cain expect - ol JOhnny crumbled like a Drake's
Coffee Cake.
Classic.
I couldn't pick one dream team - but a dozen of them.
I can't believe Metz picked the Fridge - he's not even the best nose
tackle in the NFC Central!
JD
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| 241.18 | | JARETH::YANKOWSKAS | Elmo for President | Fri Jan 31 1992 10:27 | 7 |
| > I can't believe Metz picked the Fridge - he's not even the best nose
> tackle in the NFC Central!
He's not even the best defensive lineman in his family. :-)
py
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| 241.19 | This ain't the All-Publicized Team... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Jan 31 1992 10:56 | 7 |
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Forget about movie-star types like Davidson and Karras; where's Gino
Marchetti? Now there's the man who revolutionized defensive line play
by introducing *speed*...
glenn
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| 241.20 | Bednarik, Nitschke, Butkus, Lanier best MLBs ever... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:31 | 5 |
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Oh, and another thing, Sam Huff couldn't hold Chuck Bednarik's jock!
glenn
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| 241.21 | Biggest Cheap shot I've ever seen. | PEAKS::WOESTEHOFF | Save Waldo Canyon | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:36 | 18 |
| The cheap shot by Davidson against Len Dawson was the cheapest shot I've
ever seen. I remember it well. It was late in the fourth quarter and the
Chiefs were ahead by 1 or 2 points. It was 3rd down and about 10 yards to
go for a first down. All the Chiefs needed was one first down to run out
the clock and ice the game. Dawson dropped back to pass and couldn't find
a receiver. He then ran for about 15 yards and a first down. Long, long after
he was on the ground, Davidson speared him in the middle of the back right
in front of the Chiefs bench. The refs threw the flags immediately. Otis
Taylor(who was half the size of Davidson) jumped right off the bench and
started swinging at Davidson. Then the rest of the Cheifs joined the rumble.
More flags started flying. It took the refs a while to get control back.
It ended up with personnal fouls against both teams and the refs made them
play the down over. The chiefs failed to get a first down and had to punt.
The Raiders then got into field goal position and kicked the winning field
goal in the final seconds. The Raiders won the game because of a blatant
foul and I've hated them ever since.
Keith
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| 241.22 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cuimhnich, 13 February 1692 | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:45 | 9 |
| Bednarik was the last two-way player.
Huff was by far and away better 8^) He was to Bednarik was Might Mouse
is to Mickey Mouse.....
[lotsa 8^)]
'Saw
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| 241.23 | | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:47 | 3 |
| > I've hated them ever since.
Good man!
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| 241.24 | | SALEM::TIMMONS | Where's Waldo? | Fri Jan 31 1992 11:50 | 16 |
| Sam Huff MAY have been a GOOD player, but it was Chris Schenkel who
made him famous. Let's remember that football was still struggling for
exposure, and the Gints were the only team on New England TV. I
watched a lot of those games, as they were the only pro games in town.
Anyway, Schehkel was constantly referring to the tackle being made by
Huff, or, "..and Huff in on the tackle." Lots and lots of time, Huff
was either NOT in on the tackle, or was in on the latter part of a gang
tackle. I'm not blaming Huff about this hype, it was V-head.
Chuck Bednarik was a mean SOB.
I didn't see all the replies, so I'm wondering if anyone named Butkus
to their team? What a player!
lEe
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| 241.25 | | COMET::JACKSONTA | The 9 hitter | Fri Jan 31 1992 12:13 | 6 |
| I have the same problem with alot of different dream teams.
The fridge is a big slug! That guy will have major heart
problems in the next few years unless he gets off the big macs.
Tj
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| 241.26 | | AXIS::ROBICHAUD | Plato,Homer,Voltaire,BobKnight | Fri Jan 31 1992 12:41 | 5 |
| Huff was a New Yawk media creation. If he had played anywhere
else people would say "Sam who?". William Perry is a true
NUKEWIDEBODYSTUD.
/Don
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| 241.27 | Davidson - A true Raider ! | LUNER::BROOKS | Wilt > Russell x 10 | Fri Jan 31 1992 14:00 | 9 |
| re .13
I've seen a still of that hit Slash ! Ding dong !
Wasn't it after that hit that Namath started wearing panty hose ?
Hmmm .....
Doc
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| 241.28 | The fridge is /Don's brother | DECWET::METZGER | I'm for the Super Mariners...... | Fri Jan 31 1992 14:02 | 14 |
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Why did I pick the Fridge?
What I want in a nose tackle is a guy that stacks up the offensive
line. A guy that takes up 3 offensive lineman. A huge guy that can stop
a running play just by throwing his weight around. The Fridge is that
guy. He's a shadow of his former self now but he was a great nose
tackle his first few years in the league.
He gets bonus credits for doubling as a running back in short yardage
situations... :-)
Metz
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| 241.29 | | CAMONE::WAY | Cuimhnich, 13 February 1692 | Fri Jan 31 1992 14:04 | 29 |
| Sam Huff would have excelled anywhere he was. He was still a force
when he went to the Redskins....
Butkus. The epitome of the mean middle LB. Makes Singleterry look like
a Nancy-boy. If I had to pick the meanest guy to ever play, I'd pick
Butkus.
Mean middle LBs I can think of:
Butkus
Nobis
Nitschke
Punishment, punishment, punishment.
Coolest comment by a mean LB:
I don't want to hit the guy so hard I knock him unconscious.
Then he misses the pain. I want to hit him so hard that
he stays awake, and a little snot dribbles out of his nose.
-- Lawrence Taylor
'Saw
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| 241.30 | | ROYALT::ASHE | His name is Honest Abe & he's here to say... | Fri Jan 31 1992 16:21 | 6 |
| Nice Quote...
I took Karras back in .2...
Wish I had room for te Tooz... he'd fit in...
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| 241.31 | A classic from LT! | MR4DEC::WENTZELL | Silence breeds ignorance | Fri Jan 31 1992 16:27 | 7 |
| >Coolest comment by a mean LB:
What a quote!! 8^)
Ahhhhh, linebackers....chicks dig 'em and guys wanna be like 'em.
Scott
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| 241.32 | (8^)* | CELTIK::JACOB | Ushering in a new era... | Fri Jan 31 1992 17:07 | 12 |
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>>What I want in a nose tackle is a guy that stacks up the offensive
>>line. A guy that takes up 3 offensive lineman. A huge guy that can stop
>>a running play just by throwing his weight around. The Fridge is that
>>guy.
Yeah, but when the fridge throws HIS weight around, the Richter Scale
goes crazy!!
JaKe
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| 241.33 | | RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO | Is that a Drake's Coffee Cake? | Fri Jan 31 1992 17:09 | 16 |
| Harry Carson was a damn good middle/inside linebacker too.
LT's quote is great. But the best is the Jack Tatum quote about the
perfect hit (and please, no Darryl Stingley ratholes). Tatum
absolutely *crused* Sammy White of the Vikings (may have been in the
Super Bowl).
Tatum said it was his best shot: "Sammy be laying there, head shaking,
body quivering, eyes rollings and crying out for his mama".
Love that line. ANd remember the hit. Brutal.
Was it Lambert or someone else that said the perfect hit would be one
where the helmet flies off the body - with the head still in it?
JD
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| 241.34 | | LUNER::BROOKS | Wilt > Russell x 10 | Fri Jan 31 1992 17:11 | 6 |
| Jack Tatum once said (in response to a comment Butkus made about 'I
want the guy to know that Dick Butkus had hit him...' ) ...
" ...If the guy can know that [Butkus] hit him, then he wasn't hitting
him right ... my idea of a tackle is when he hears train whistles in
his head, and doesn't know what happened or who ran over him ..."
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| 241.35 | This was about 6 years ago | BSS::JCOTANCH | | Fri Jan 31 1992 17:48 | 8 |
| I remember a great quote concerning Taylor that went something like
this: I believe it was made by a UNC basketball player. While at UNC,
he and some friends were have a serious game of pick-up hoops and LT
came along and wanted to play. They told LT he'd have to wait - that
this was a serious game. LT got pissed and ripped the hoop down and
walked away.
Joe
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| 241.36 | | SALEM::SCALZO | The Sky is Crying | Mon Feb 03 1992 11:40 | 24 |
| a few....
Marino/Montana
Czonka
Roger Craig
Tony Dorsett
Jerry Rice
Nat Moore
Marc Bavaro
Chip Lohmiller
Reggie Roby
Dwight Stevenson
Bonoconti
Butkis
Conrad Dobler
Lott
John Offerdahl
LT
Singaltary
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