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76.1 | Bo don't know AFC Championship Game | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | Papa Mac | Thu Jan 17 1991 12:12 | 3 |
| According to a sports report I heard, replies in the Raiders topic,
replies in the AFC playoffs topic, and replies in the Bill topic, Bo
will not play against the Bills due to a bum knee and hip.
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76.3 | | BOSOX::TIMMONS | I'm a Pepere! | Fri Jan 18 1991 06:47 | 5 |
| Is Bo gonna play this weekend?
:*)
lEe
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76.4 | Oh, No !!! No Mo' Bo ??? | SHALOT::HUNT | Swatch dogs and Diet Coke heads | Fri Mar 15 1991 16:46 | 7 |
| There's a radio report out of San Diego today that says Bo Jackson's
pro career in both baseball and football may be over.
Apparently, the hip injury he suffered in the Raiders playoff win over
Cincinnati is a lot more serious than first diagnosed.
Bob Hunt
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76.5 | | SONG::ASHE | Left, around & together w/ the right.. | Fri Mar 15 1991 16:54 | 6 |
| Yup, and people laughed at OJ when he said the hip problem might affect
spring training...
I guess it's some disease that takes a jolt to come out and be made
apparent. I just saw a newswire story, but I didn't keep it to put
in here...
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76.6 | | RECURS::WAHL | Semper Gumby | Fri Mar 15 1991 16:56 | 8 |
| According to a news wire report in the baseball notesfile, Bo knows
necrosis. The doctors suspect he has a condition which starves the
bone (in his case, a femur) of blood until it dies. It can be caused
by a severe impact. They'll know more next week when he undergoes an
MRI and other tests. If that's the case, Bo is out of baseball and
football.
Dave W.
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76.7 | From the BASEBALL conference | SHALOT::HUNT | Swatch dogs and Diet Coke heads | Fri Mar 15 1991 17:17 | 41 |
|
SAN DIEGO (UPI) -- Bo Jackson may have avascular necrosis, the San
Diego Tribune reported Friday, claiming a career-threatening hip
condition has the baseball and football star on crutches.
The newspaper cited a source close to Los Angeles-based medical
personnel who know of Jackson's condition, which has prevented him from
taking part in the Kansas City Royals' training camp.
The condition is a loss of blood circulation to the bone which causes
the bone to die.
Dr. Gary Losse, the San Diego Chargers team physician, had no direct
knowledge of Jackson's case but told the Tribune that a person can be
born with the condition or it can be brought on by an injury -- such as
the one Jackson sustained Jan. 13, prematurely ending his season with
the Los Angeles Raiders.
``Usually it is brought on by a trauma,'' said Losse. ``The injury
hinders the blood supply to that part of the bone.''
The Tribune said it's source reported that the injury was at the top
of the femur bone where it joins the hip.
``If that is the case, that is not a good place,'' Losse said.
The condition is not considered life-threatening but could require a
hip replacement.
The Royals and Raiders have not acknowledged Jackson has the
condition.
Royals general manager Herk Robinson told the Tribune he was not
familiar with the term ``avascular necrosis,'' but that Jackson was
scheduled for a bone scan and Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Kansas City,
Mo., Friday. Those results were to be sent to Dr. Jim Andrews, a
prominent orthopedic surgeon, in Birmingham, Ala., for further tests
Monday.
``By Tuesday we should have a better idea,'' said Robinson. ``Dr.
(Steven) Joyce (the Royals team doctor) said it was best to put him on
crutches to take the weight off of the joint so there would be a better
chance of healing.''
Jackson's last appearance on a playing field ended when he had to be
helped off of the field during the Raiders' AFC playoff game against
Cincinnati.
It was at first believed the injury was a routine hip pointer but
Jackson was not able to play in the AFC championship game in Buffalo the
following week.
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76.8 | | BSS::G_MCINTOSH | ULTRIX NETWORKS, CSC/CS | Sat Mar 16 1991 21:20 | 5 |
| That's really a shame if it's true. I'm glad he got in and made his
mark before this occurred. I suspect that he's financially set for
life, but it's a shame anyway.
Live from Charger Central.....Glenn
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76.9 | | WMOIS::RIEU_D | Read his lips...Know new taxes! | Sat Mar 16 1991 21:29 | 2 |
| I heard a report that it's the same condition that Neil Lomax has.
denny
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76.11 | This just in: | SHALOT::MEDVID | wild but not lost | Mon Mar 18 1991 09:10 | 6 |
| Last night on Charlotte's NBC affiliate, the weekend sportscaster who,
for some reason, has an "in" with the Royals organization said that
Bo Jackson has announced a press conference for Tuesday in which he
will announce his retirement from all sports.
--dan'l
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76.12 | | CAM::WAY | Sha-WING! | Mon Mar 18 1991 09:11 | 28 |
| > I never thought I'd see the day that a trash rag would have a true
> story. Makes you wonder about those space aliens, don't it... :-)
Hawk --
Those space aliens stories are true. It can now be revealed that
*I* am a space alien.
I was marooned here over thirty years ago when my space ship crashed.
I made my way in an uncorporeal state into the nursery in Hartford
hospital and assumed the body of a young male child. Ever since,
I've been stranded in this strange world you people call home.
You humans are truly a strange breed. Never in all of the known universe
have I ever come across a species so involved with trying to prove
who the best is. Never had I seen such "debating" of this subject.
Ah, but you humans are truly at your best when the chips are down,
when your backs are against the wall.
If I can ever "phone home" I will truly have an interesting report to
file....
Your Space Alien Co-worker,
Chainsaw
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76.13 | Yeah, that's it | CST17::FARLEY | Have YOU seen Elvis today?? | Mon Mar 18 1991 10:12 | 4 |
| 'splains a lot.....
;^)
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76.14 | Say it ain't so, Bo... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Mon Mar 18 1991 10:32 | 13 |
|
This Bo Jackson thing confirms the worst fears of all Bo *baseball*
fans, multiplied by ten. It takes a lot to knock a non-pitcher out of
the sport, especially in the American League, and if these reports are
true this injury doesn't even compare with the devastating
football-style knee injury that was in the back of everyone's mind.
Here's hoping that Bo can recover to the point where he's capable of
meeting the skill requirements that baseball demands, and is smart
enough to let go of football for good...
glenn
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76.16 | | PNO::HEISER | music over my head | Mon Mar 18 1991 12:14 | 5 |
| Re: Neil Lomax
I heard the same thing here. Doesn't sound good.
Mike
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76.17 | Lomax had arthritis | SHALOT::HUNT | Swatch dogs and Diet Coke heads | Mon Mar 18 1991 12:30 | 10 |
| Neil Lomax had arthritis in his hip joint. Bo Jackson apparently has
this "avascular necrosis" thing where some or all of the bone dies from
lack of blood circulation. Thus, I believe their afflictions are
different.
However, Lomax did have an artificial hip replacement and the rumors are
that Bo Jackson will need the same procedure. That's where their
similarities lay.
Bob Hunt
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76.19 | Who was it? | SHALOT::MEDVID | wild but not lost | Mon Mar 18 1991 13:22 | 7 |
| OK, let's get the trivia out of the way now.
Who was the Bengal that ended Bo Jackson's career (and money-grubbing
life)?
--dan'l
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76.20 | Does Bo know Insurance | ECAMV3::JACOB | She still got his gun in her hand | Mon Mar 18 1991 15:34 | 6 |
| Hope Lloyd's of London can recover from the claim that Bo will be
filing and the Mega-payoff.
JaKe
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76.21 | | PNO::HEISER | music over my head | Mon Mar 18 1991 17:11 | 5 |
| Re: Bengal
David Fulcher?
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76.22 | I bet Tampa Bay is smiling about all of this | SHALOT::MEDVID | wild but not lost | Tue Mar 19 1991 09:46 | 7 |
| Jackson was released by the Royals yesterday. He and his doctor
confirmed in a press conference that he will play pro sports
again...some day.
Hang it up, Bo, and enjoy your money.
--dan'l
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76.23 | | 7210::MGILBERT | Paul Tsongas for President | Tue Mar 19 1991 11:21 | 10 |
|
RE: enjoying the money
That will definitely be part of the problem. The reason the royals
released him was twofold. 1. His release allows the royals to reduce
it's financial commitment to him to 1/6 of his salary for this season.
2. Bo lied to royals management about the extent of his injury.
according to one doctor Bo know the extent of his injury before he
signed his contract.
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76.24 | | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:08 | 5 |
| Sometimes money isn't everything. Can you imagine having to give up
your career, especially something you enjoy as much as football and
baseball? Sure your financially set for life, but what are you going
to do with your next 40 years? Not to mention the fact that this type
of injury can have an impact on normal, everyday life.
|
76.25 | Top to bottom as fast as you can blink | SHALOT::HUNT | Swatch dogs and Diet Coke heads | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:10 | 21 |
| How quickly it goes ...
In my opinion, Bo Jackson is (was?) one of the most remarkable athletes in
American sports history. He flew in the face of all the conventional
wisdom that said he couldn't be successful at two major league
professional sports. Not only did he do it but he flourished at it
being named to the All-Star teams in both sports.
But one pop to the hip and he's looking at a very shaky future. Is it any
wonder that the modern pro athlete looks to hyper-maximize his or her
earnings during their careers.
The Royals, no doubt, are extremely pissed. I think we saw their anger
spill over in their decision to release him. They're perfectly justified
in releasing him but it sure as hell doesn't solve their new problem in
leftfield.
If Bo's career is truly over, I, for one, will miss him very much. He was
a stud.
Bob Hunt
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76.26 | | QUASER::JOHNSTON | LegitimateSportingPurpose?E.S.A.D.! | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:29 | 11 |
| Poor little Bo-ster. Imagine if it were you.
Imagine, having to spend the rest of your life making 10 to 20 times per
year what you make now. And having to play golf, and work out, and
travel, and make a few commercials, maybe do a little acting, pursue any
hobby that struck your fancy. No more working unless you felt like it.
Talk about your horrible life! Maybe I'll send him a sympathy card.
Maybe not....
Mike JN
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76.27 | Bo's "hobby" is what got him into trouble... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:39 | 14 |
|
I'd agree with you, Bob, that Bo is (was?) unique, but personally I
would have preferred greatness in either in sport than just goodness in
both, which is where I'd have classified him even before he got hurt.
The two-sport thing was fun for the first year or two, but after that I
was longing for more.
I would have loved to have seen what he could have done if he devoted
himself to baseball, but I can also see where a football fan could have
said the same about his sport with equal justification. Now, we may
never know for certain either way.
glenn
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76.28 | Bo knows... | SALEM::LEVESQUE_T | Oh, yeah! The boy can PLAY!! | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:43 | 7 |
| A lot of envy in this note. Bo is special and perhaps some folks
resent it. I respect him.
Point of curiosity...was the injury sustained on an artificial surface?
Never did like that stuff.
Ted
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76.29 | | 7221::JHENDRY | John Hendry, DTN 297-2623 | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:49 | 30 |
| Adjustment to retirement from any sport is difficult no matter what the
age. In Bo's case, it's probably going to be doubly difficult since
he's been so busy at two sports that he's never had time to develop
himself in any other direction. In addition sports is so demanding and
so time-consuming and so exciting that anything else anyone pursues is
going to seem dull. All Bo's ever done has been to do endorsements, he
sure as heck has never prepared himself for anything else and the
endorsements are going to dry right up now, unless Nike comes out with
a "Bo knows rehab" campaign.
To give an example, consider the difference between Woody Hayes and
Bear Bryant. Hayes lived a long and fulfilling life after his career
as Ohio State's coach because he was a man of many other interests. He
was well-read in military history and he was considered an expert on
the life and works of Ralph Waldo Emerson. In fact, in the early
eighties, there was a symposium on Emerson at Harvard with many of the
leading experts on Emerson from the academic world and Hayes was one of
the speakers. On the other hand, Bryant never seemed to have any
interests, other than gambling, off the football field. When Bear
stepped down after the 1982 season, a friend and I both agreed that
Bear would be dead in 6 months. How unfortunately right we were.
John
PS - the most amazing athlete I've ever seen in terms of adjusting to
retirement has been Mike Eruzione. Here's a guy who reached the top of
the athletic world in the 1980 Olympics, has never worked at a full
time job since, and has parlayed it into lectures, guest appearances,
motiviational speeches, celebrity golf tournaments, part-time TV work,
celebrity hockey games and so forth, and supports his family doing it.
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76.30 | The tackle was very unspectacular... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Tue Mar 19 1991 12:50 | 10 |
|
> Point of curiosity...was the injury sustained on an artificial surface?
> Never did like that stuff.
Nope, on the grass surface of LA Coliseum. I also believe that the
injury was caused by the action of the tackler (Walker?) pulling on
his leg and not the contact with the ground.
glenn
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76.31 | I like him and I hate him | SHALOT::MEDVID | wild but not lost | Tue Mar 19 1991 13:14 | 23 |
| I'm going to contradict myself here, but that goes with my mixed
emotions about Bo Jackson.
The man impressed me. He is/was one of the greatest all around
athletes I've ever witnessed. And he (or his manager) was a marketing
guru. I'm sure that with the money Bo has made in the past four years
off of two professional contracts and endorsements, he can live out his
life very comfortably...if he invests correctly which I would think his
advisors would have him doing already.
But I've always resented Bo Jackson for shunning Tampa Bay. It's not
his fault, I guess, but rather the NFL's for having the rule that if a
player is not signed within a year, he's back on the market for the
likes of Al Davis to grab him. Tampa used their first rounder on him
and got nothing in return. (Please correct that statement if I'm
wrong.) The Bucs might have been a better football team in the last
few years with Bo Jackson in the backfield.
Bo Jackson's decision to play baseball hurt Tampa Bay football. Bo
Jackson's second decision to play football as a hobby hurt Tampa Bay
hearts.
--dan'l
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76.33 | What a life! | NRADM::GALVIN | o..........|||| Candlepins | Tue Mar 19 1991 13:21 | 3 |
| re: .29......Eruzione
And don't forget the "Goofy Games"!
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76.34 | More ... | SHALOT::HUNT | Swatch dogs and Diet Coke heads | Tue Mar 19 1991 13:30 | 16 |
| I didn't say I sympathized with Bo. I said I'll miss him on the playing
field. Face it, each one of us can only dream about playing one
professional sport. This man excelled at two.
Dan'l, I can understand your opinions about what Bo did or did not do for
Tampa Bay. But, I'd be curious to know what you thought of John Elway's
snub of the Baltimore Colts and Frank Kush, their coach at the time. For
those who don't recall, Elway used baseball as a similar "threat" to avoid
playing for the Colts. The Colts traded him to the Denver Broncos as a
result.
For the record, I don't have a problem with either Bo or Elway in this
regard. Drafts are questionably legal anyways. Why shouldn't they sell
their services to the highest bidder ???
Bob Hunt
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76.35 | Baltimore compensated; Tampa got squat | SHALOT::MEDVID | wild but not lost | Tue Mar 19 1991 13:44 | 18 |
| Disliked Elway for the same reason, but at least Baltimore had the
option to get something in return. Not as much harm done as losing
your number one just because...
That highest bidder analogy is very accurate, but only if you compare
it to real life (i.e., I choose to be employed by the highest bidder if
the situation is right). However, professional sports has this aura of
not being real life. These guys get big money and should have to take
things like playing for a team other than the one of their choice.
That's the breaks (no pun intended on Bo's part).
But I think we're getting into an old argument here, so let's not
rehash it.
Back to the point, Bo Jackson set Tampa Bay football back five years if
not more.
--dan'l
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76.36 | | FDCV06::KING | Jesse's Jets! | Tue Mar 19 1991 13:55 | 5 |
| No one forced Tampa to draft Bo, and Bo made it clear that he was going
to play minor league baseball that year. Tampa took a gamble and
lost...
REK
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76.37 | | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Tue Mar 19 1991 13:56 | 7 |
| Didn't Tampa have the same options that Baltimore did?
If that hotshot high school pitcher the A's drafted decided to go to
Texas and play college ball, were the A's "screwed"?
Did Bo refuse to play for Tampa, or did Tampa refuse to let Bo play
football and baseball?
|
76.38 | only for a few days though, I'd miss the dish and laundry | CHIEFF::CHILDS | Dean and Chris-Life's 13 pt underdogs | Tue Mar 19 1991 14:54 | 8 |
|
You guys are underestimating modern medicine...look at Tommy John, Bernard
King...then again it is Bo who wouldn't play with a bent hangnail...Bottom
line is I don't think they'll be any comeback cause i don't think he'll have
the drive to make it...can't say I BLAM him either, I wouldn't mind having
his life....
mike
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76.39 | Bo knows pain | LEAF::MCCULLOUGH | Lindsey is walking!! | Tue Mar 19 1991 15:26 | 15 |
| I have a friend who has a similar problem as Bo, but for a different reason.
There is a lot of disagreement amoung his doctors about the problem's
"treatability". His problem is with his knee, and some doctors want to replace
it, or fuse it, while others say rest and light exercise for a while will allow
it to come back. Also, the problem with joint replacement is that most
artificial joints are designed to last about ten years. Have something done
in your thirties, and you are looking at having to got through it several more
times. Bottom line is that if Bo can come back, it will likely be a long road,
and a real test for him.
BTW - My friends problem stems from being forced to take Steroids for a couple
of years to treat a particularly nasty case of colitis. Nasty drugs, those
'roids.
=Bob=
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76.40 | Life your life to the fullest - I plan to ! | LUNER::BROOKS | It's 25 or 6 to 4 .... | Tue Mar 19 1991 16:00 | 10 |
| Some people think Bo doesn't deserve sympathy for having to retire
(assuming that he has to, of course), because he has pile of money,
and he should have played one sport.
Hey, you live your life on your terms if possible. Bo did what many of
us would love to do, but lack guts, opportunity, talent or whatever.
More power to him. I hope this isn't The End for him.
Doc
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76.41 | | LUNER::BROOKS | It's 25 or 6 to 4 .... | Tue Mar 19 1991 16:02 | 11 |
| re .31
Bo wouldn't have shafted Tamp, except that Hugh Culverhouse (the jerk
that ran off Doug Williams) tried to play chicken with Bo over $$$'s.
He thought that Jackson would 'use' baseball the same way that Elway
did, but would eventually fold and play football.
Suprise.
Dan'l, put the blam (tm) where it belongs - on the Tampa front office.
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76.42 | | BOSOX::TIMMONS | I'm a Pepere! | Wed Mar 20 1991 06:52 | 26 |
| I'll miss his performance on either field. The man is an athlete!
To make All-Star in two major sports is a *MAJOR* accomplishment.
While he may be financially set for life, I still have some sympathy
for him in that he may become somewhat crippled for life. Here's a guy
that's actually accomplished what others dream of, and he *MAY* end up
with a disability that could severly limit his ability to enjoy the
simple things in life. Of course, we won't know for some time, and he
is even saying he'll be back in baseball this season. But if he has to
have a major joint replaced, that's no joke.
A friend of mine, on LTD from DEC, is awaiting a hip replacement. Bill
was very active, playing hockey into his late 40's. Now, he is out and
is waiting until he can't stand the pain anymore. Then, he will have
the replacement. Why wait? As previously mentioned, replacements have
a time limit for effectivity. The longer one waits for the operation,
the further out is the next one. So, Bill has been waiting for almost
a year, and is getting pretty close to it being time for the job.
If he had had it done last year, then he'd have to have another around
the year 2000. Waiting this past year, he will probably not have to
have it redone until 2001. Thay may seem like a long time, but just
reflect back to 1981. Not so long ago for us older folks.
Anyway, I hope he makes it back, even if it's with the Yankmees!
lEe
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76.44 | | ISLNDS::WASKOM | | Wed Mar 20 1991 10:40 | 13 |
| Bo is, quite simply, a phenomenal athlete. I hope that he's able
to come back and play more baseball, but I'm not hopeful. (Please,
forget more football, Bo. It ain't worth it.) In our perennial
debates about the athletic ability required to play baseball, I've
been a doubter of the first magnitude. Bo's outfield catch where
he ran up the outfield wall changed my mind.
For *anyone*, being forced to give up the activities that have given
you your reasons for getting up in the morning can be devastating.
He's going to have to do it in the spotlight. I hope he can do
it with dignity and grace.
A&W
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76.45 | | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Wed Mar 20 1991 10:40 | 10 |
|
Excellent points, Lee. A lot of athletes, especially ex-football
players, might even find themselves later in life at the point where
they'd give up all the money to have their health back. Football
players seem to have the nasty habit of dying young, even. Bo
shouldn't be in that position with his injury, but as concerns overall
health it's hard not to be sympathetic...
glenn
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76.46 | Or belt the Dean with a yard marker ? | EARRTH::BROOKS | It's 25 or 6 to 4 .... | Wed Mar 20 1991 12:55 | 10 |
| re .29
John, did Woody Hayes lose it during the symposium and punch another
professor ? :-) :-)
On a serious note, thanks for the note - I never knew that about Hayes.
As for the Bear, I often wondered if retirement meant The End, or if it
was vice versa ....
Doc
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76.47 | Don't buy the theory so nicely | VAXWRK::SCHNEIDER | The crux of the biscuit | Wed Mar 20 1991 13:42 | 3 |
| Doesn't seem to me that Hayes enjoyed a long life after he was fired.
Dan
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76.48 | | 7221::JHENDRY | John Hendry, DTN 297-2623 | Wed Mar 20 1991 13:52 | 5 |
| Woody was fired in 1978 and he was in his mid-sixties at the time. He
didn't die until 1987. That's 9-10 years. At that age, that's doing
pretty well.
John
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76.49 | | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Thu Mar 21 1991 09:00 | 2 |
| I heard a report on the radio this morning that Jackson has the hip of
an old man. His condition is causing arthritis and his career is over.
|
76.50 | | CARROL::LEFEBVRE | Born at the right time | Thu Mar 21 1991 17:20 | 5 |
| You heard it here first...
Bo knows comebacks.
Mark.
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76.51 | | STAR::YANKOWSKAS | Paul Yankowskas | Fri Mar 22 1991 09:37 | 5 |
| A note in the BASEBALL conference reports that the Yankees have
claimed Bo off the waiver wire.
py
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76.52 | | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Fri Mar 22 1991 09:39 | 5 |
| � A note in the BASEBALL conference reports that the Yankees have
� claimed Bo off the waiver wire.
Is that because they needed to replace their other 2 sport athlete,
Neon Deion?
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76.53 | | REFINE::ASHE | You're watching 3CP1, All-Russian TV... | Fri Mar 22 1991 10:00 | 3 |
| Yeah, yeah, and they laughed when the Bullets were interested in
Bernard King... and that took how many years?
|
76.54 | Dont underestimate desire | BTOVT::MANDILE_A | BAM-BAM Does Steroids | Fri Mar 22 1991 10:16 | 9 |
|
The Yankees picked up Bo Jackson and his 2 million dollar a year
contract. IF Bo came back in a Yankee uniform you can bet he'd be
packing them into Yankee stadium.
Its a risk, but the doctors once said a guy named Montana would never play
again either.
Al
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76.55 | Put it into perspective somewhat | SHALOT::MEDVID | wild but not lost | Fri Mar 22 1991 10:30 | 3 |
|
Montanna and King never needed their hips replaced either.
|
76.56 | | FTMUDG::REED | Sutton+Houston=1992NCAAChamps | Fri Mar 22 1991 10:33 | 7 |
| and Montana doesn't run over people for a living either
It's a real let down about Bo. Especially since he's been
a real positive hero for the kids.
Cowboy
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76.57 | | RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO | Un Rosalind der schplat | Fri Mar 22 1991 10:48 | 18 |
| First, Bo can comeback - first he has to ditch football.
Second - he's playing in the American League, and thanks to the
Designated Gimmick, Ol Bo can simply sit on the bench all year, and 4
times a game, get up and take some mighty swings. If he loses some
speed, so what? Mickey Mantle lost his speed with his knee problems,
yet was highly effective (imagine if the Mick had the benefit of the
Designated Gimmick to rest his knees...)
Yankee Stadium is natural turf, so if the Bo-ster did comeback and be
able to play in the field, he wouldn't have to deal with artificial
turf.
Yankees can afford to take the risk. It's a no-lose proposition.
Bo Jackson in New York - a Madison Avenue wet dream.
JD
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76.58 | | REFINE::ASHE | You're watching 3CP1, All-Russian TV... | Fri Mar 22 1991 10:49 | 3 |
| True, but King was told he might not really run again, let alone
play any kind of basketball. You might not see Bo run over people,
but I wouldn't count out him hitting that Royal Stadium scoreboard.
|
76.59 | $2 million is nothing to the Yankees | PENSAR::LAZARUS | David Lazarus @KYO,323-4353 | Fri Mar 22 1991 12:03 | 3 |
| $2 million is nothing to the Yankees. I agree with JD;it is a no-lose
situation. The positive PR they have gained ,plus Bo's commercial
appeal will pay for his salary.
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76.60 | | CARROL::LEFEBVRE | Born at the right time | Fri Mar 22 1991 12:51 | 3 |
| What JD said.
Mark.
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76.61 | Hope KC is proved wrong, but... | STAR::YANKOWSKAS | Paul Yankowskas | Fri Mar 22 1991 12:55 | 13 |
| If "it's only money", then why didn't a team that paid eight figures
for two stiff pitchers named Davis after the 1989 season, and almost
that much to sign Mike Boddicker this past winter, merely eat Bo's
$2 million salary for this year and hope for the best? You don't
outright release a player of Bo's athletic ability and drawing power
unless you're pretty damn sure you're making the right decision.
Don't get me wrong, my best wishes and prayers are very much with Bo.
But if even half the reports that have been surfacing are true, I'm not
optimistic about the chances of Bo ever playing pro sports again...
py
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76.62 | | VAXWRK::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 22 1991 13:07 | 8 |
| I think everyone is missing the point here. The Yankee's claiming of Bo
Jackson is strictly a PR move. He'll assuredly turn them down and let the 5
days pass and become a free agent; the Yanks couldn't lose by claiming him.
Besides, given the sorry state of the Yankees' organization, this is a gamble
they absolutely had to take. In the worst case scenario, they wasted
$2,000,000. That's like you or me buying a newspaper.
j.
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76.63 | Up off the mat, and on their feet again. | FDCV06::GARBARINO | Red Sox in '_enter_current_year_ | Fri Mar 22 1991 13:50 | 9 |
| >Besides, given the sorry state of the Yankees' organization, this is a gamble
>they absolutely had to take.
Hey Jeff, in case you missed it, the "sorry state of the Yankees' organiza-
tion" was kicked out last summer by Com. Vincent. They're coming back,
count on it.
As for Bo turning the guaranteed money down: the Yanks took their risk,
now let's see if Bo has the stones to walk away from them.
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76.64 | | VAXWRK::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 22 1991 14:00 | 19 |
| >> >Besides, given the sorry state of the Yankees' organization, this is a gamble
>> >they absolutely had to take.
>>
>> Hey Jeff, in case you missed it, the "sorry state of the Yankees' organiza-
>> tion" was kicked out last summer by Com. Vincent. They're coming back,
>> count on it.
Didn't mean this the way it sounded, I guess. But you've got to admit that
there's nowhere to go but up. And the Yanks outfield could certainly find room
for Bo Jackson (didn't hear anyone saying "yes, but where would we play him
;-)).
Trust me, Joe. Not everything said about the yankees by someone who is not a
Yankees' fan is anti-yankee. With me, I'm just plain indifferent to them. And
I wish them the best of luck this year and would love to see a big comeback.
Now that Dan has moved back into the building, it would make him easier to live
with ;-).
j.
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76.65 | Now I can root for him in earnest | VAXWRK::SCHNEIDER | The crux of the biscuit | Fri Mar 22 1991 14:04 | 13 |
| >I think everyone is missing the point here. The Yankee's claiming of Bo
>Jackson is strictly a PR move.
You missed the point. The Yankees don't need PR. They need a strong
right-handed bat in the lineup to replace Steve Balboni. There's also
probably less risk than some might think, as Jackson's agent intimated
that they'd talk about the contract if a team gave him a chance. You
can be sure that the Yankees will talk.
It's a risk that's well worth taking from a purely baseball point of
view.
Dan
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76.66 | | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Fri Mar 22 1991 14:14 | 14 |
| � You missed the point. The Yankees don't need PR.
Dan, I was at the Stadium during a night game against Texas last year.
I was able to walk up to the gate � hr. before game time and get seats
an aisle away from the field boxes. Less than half way through the
game I could get into the field boxes. They may have their guaranteed
TV money, but they can use the help at the box office that a Bo Jackson
can generate. Do you think Deion Sanders was brought up for strictly
baseball reasons? Bo will be the next Neon Dieon as far as the Yanks
are concerned.
I would think there are less risky options to replace Steve Balboni
than to sign a guy who might not be able to walk normally for the rest
of his life.
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76.67 | | FTMUDG::REED | Sutton+Houston=1992NCAAChamps | Fri Mar 22 1991 14:15 | 31 |
| from the Colorado Springs Gazette Telegraph:
Bo's Agent Optimistic: Bo Jackson's future should not be judged by
doctors who haven't seen his medical reports, his agent says.
"All of these quacks around the country have not examined Bo's
records and have no idea what they're talking about," Richard Woods,
Jackson's agent, said in Mobile, Ala. "When I see doctors in San
Diego, San Francisco, or New York or Washington commenting, it makes
you wonder what sort of ethical medical standards they have."
An Alabama medical center where Jackson was examined this week said
the two-sport star would be tested again in 30 days. It said it would
not comment on Jackson's condition until then.
Meanwhile, Woods said the New York Yankees are serious about
claiming Jackson by today's noon MST deadline.
"Bo and the Yankees could be a match made in heaven."
Can I see your ID? The Live Oak, Fla., Gray Ghosts, a Little
League team, sent the minimum $1 waiver fee to the Kansas City Royals
and put in a claim for Bo Jackson.
Gray Ghosts coach Daniel McKeever raised the $1 from his squad.
McKeever said Jackson must follow the same rules as his other
players.
"Please advice Mr. Jackson that practice is on Mondays, Tuesday and
Thursday and a missed practice means he will not start in Saturday's
game," he advised in a letter to the Royals. "He will have to supply
his own jockstrap, cleats, glove and one baseball."
Hope this clarifies things
Cowboy
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76.68 | Like it or not, I think Bo's stuck with the Yanks... | NAC::G_WAUGAMAN | | Fri Mar 22 1991 14:36 | 15 |
|
I agree 100% with the last reply. I really have to wonder about these
doctors who for a little bit of publicity are putting their
professional reputations on the line. No doctor who has examined Bo
has yet flat out said that without a doubt Bo has avascular necrosis.
That much remains in doubt, and it's amazing how these doctors with the
same lousy newspaper reports we're getting can reach their conclusions.
Does Bo have the right to turn the Yankees down? I didn't think so.
I thought that was what the waiver wire was all about. He's got a
valid contract, and whoever agrees to pick that contract up owns it.
He's not eligible to become a free agent until after 1992, either.
glenn
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76.69 | He's still on the wire... | SALEM::DODA | Sleep, who needs it? | Fri Mar 22 1991 16:01 | 3 |
| Just heard NY passed on Bo.
daryll
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76.70 | | VAXWRK::NEEDLE | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Fri Mar 22 1991 16:14 | 12 |
| >> Does Bo have the right to turn the Yankees down? I didn't think so.
As far as I know, he can.
As for the PR move, Mac stated it eloquently. I had the pleasure of being one
of 14,000 at a game at the Stadium last year. Pretty empty. Bo couldn't help
but fill seats, even if it's to see him sitting in the owner's box.
But it's a moot point. The Yankees spinelessly backed down and decided not to
claim him.
j.
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76.71 | Bo's choice | ISLNDS::WALSH | Howie @BXC | Fri Mar 22 1991 16:15 | 8 |
| >Does Bo have the right to turn the Yankees down? I didn't think so.
>I thought that was what the waiver wire was all about. He's got a
>valid contract, and whoever agrees to pick that contract up owns it.
>He's not eligible to become a free agent until after 1992, either.
They either get him with his current contract or he can turn it
down and become a total free agent (and possibly risk a smaller
contract.)
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76.72 | | CARROL::LEFEBVRE | Born at the right time | Fri Mar 22 1991 16:32 | 4 |
| Where's Dan with the obligatory "ahh, where would he play...we don't
need 'im."?
Mark.
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76.73 | Ahh, where would he play...we don't need 'im. | VAXWRK::SCHNEIDER | The crux of the biscuit | Fri Mar 22 1991 17:02 | 1 |
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76.74 | | CARROL::LEFEBVRE | Rather be trout hunting | Mon Mar 25 1991 12:41 | 18 |
| <<< Note 76.65 by VAXWRK::SCHNEIDER "The crux of the biscuit" >>>
-< Now I can root for him in earnest >-
> You missed the point. The Yankees don't need PR. They need a strong
> right-handed bat in the lineup to replace Steve Balboni. There's also
> probably less risk than some might think, as Jackson's agent intimated
> that they'd talk about the contract if a team gave him a chance. You
> can be sure that the Yankees will talk.
>
> It's a risk that's well worth taking from a purely baseball point of
> view.
>
> Dan
That was a quick switch.
Mark.
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76.75 | Bo knows Chicago | CHIEFF::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Apr 03 1991 15:26 | 2 |
| It was reported in the Baseball conference that Bo Jackson has signed
with the Chicago White Sox.
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76.76 | KICK HIM when he's down! (Sigh) | ANGLIN::KIRKMAN | Yeah, I get StarTrek jokes. | Thu Apr 04 1991 09:45 | 7 |
| Well, it had to happen...
I caught a spoof the local radio did on "Bo Jackson Aspirin". Ya know,
it kills career-ending pain, and numbs you to the fact that you've just
lost millions of dollars.
Commander Scott
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76.77 | Just Do It... | CAM::WAY | HWRFC Clydescale | Thu Apr 04 1991 10:09 | 12 |
| I think it's a big reaction to all of the Bo Knows stuff that was
shoved down our throats when he was on top.
Bo's a helluva athlete. But I got so SICK of seeing the Nike commercials
after a while.
FWIW, I think the Nike ads with other top athletes (especially Patty(?)
Welch, the woman marathoner) were much better.
So, it is inevitable that someone would take a shot at Bo....
'Saw
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76.78 | BoSOX! ;^) | COMET::WADE | I won't....back....down. | Thu Apr 04 1991 12:18 | 1 |
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76.79 | | RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JO | Then Came Bronson | Thu Apr 04 1991 12:21 | 17 |
| I don't like Nike commercials at all. The Bo Knows ones were a breath
of fresh air.
Saw, the Welch commercial, and others like it, were Nike's attempt to
go back in time to their magazine advertising in the 1970's. They had
some great ones.
One was "There is no Finish Line" - it showed a solitary runner on a
road that simply stretched forever into the horizon.
Another was "Man vs. Machine" which showed a solitary runner on the
Golden Gate bridge during rush hour.
THere were others. This was when Nike was an athletic shoe company -
not an athletic fashion shoe company.
JD
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76.80 | Bo knows recovery...... | WLDWST::RILUSTRE | | Wed Aug 21 1991 14:16 | 18 |
|
I'm not really a fan of Bo Jackson but it was tempting to reply on
this topic about him. These are the things that I know about Bo so
please bear with me:
*According to S.I. about 2 weeks ago, there is a possibility that Bo
might come back to baseball in time of the playoffs once he has
recovered from his injury. It is further stated in S.I. that his doctor
was surprised to the extent that Bo is way ahead of his schedule in re-
covering from his injury. And it was also stated that Bo told Al Davis
of the Raiders that once he is fully recovered he'll try to come back
to the team playing both football & baseball again.
*Bo still has some endorsements under his belt to keep him busy during
the time of his injury. His latest endoresement is that of a Pepsi
commercial where he is seen dancing with 2 beautiful ladies on each side
and the other was he is on the beach sitting on a chair doing that
"you got the right one baby, uh-huh" stuff.
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76.81 | Bo's (come)Back | CNTROL::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Wed Aug 21 1991 14:30 | 8 |
| � and the other was he is on the beach sitting on a chair doing that
� "you got the right one baby, uh-huh" stuff.
Right product, wrong campaign. The beachchair scene is in Pepsi's
Summer Chill Out promo.
Bo has been given clearance by his doctors to play baseball. He will
be assigned to one of the ChiSox farm clubs for rehab.
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76.82 | But WAIT.....there's more.... | CST17::FARLEY | Have YOU seen Elvis today?? | Wed Aug 21 1991 14:36 | 10 |
|
Bo's also at/going to the White Sox minor league team to brush up
on his game. For some time he's been participating in hitting
practice and pre-game warm up drills.
He won't be there long though, he's got to be on the roster by Aug. 31
to be eligible to play in the post season events.
Kev
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76.83 | | MCIS1::DHAMEL | I'm not distorted. Reality is. | Wed Aug 21 1991 17:18 | 6 |
|
I know the guy really enjoys his hobby, but IMO he's stupid to
jeopardize both careers by going back to football.
Dickstah
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76.84 | Bo never said he was retiring from football | CNTROL::MACNEAL | ruck `n' roll | Mon Nov 25 1991 12:22 | 8 |
| Bo was interviewed on Good Morning America this morning. He said that
he was misquoted about retiring from football. What he said was after
conferring with his doctors they agreed that he will not play football
in the forseeable future. He hopes to be able to play football again
some day. In the meantime he will start his winter training schedule
to get ready for baseball season.
Anybody pick up Bo's autobiography on video cassette?
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76.85 | Football is too demanding. Can't see it... | GUSHER::WAUGAMAN | | Mon Nov 25 1991 14:07 | 10 |
|
Bo's going to milk the spotlight for as long as he can. As long
as someone out there believes he's still a two-sport athlete (once
much better at football than baseball), he's still something special.
As far as baseball goes, he's the most overrated phenomenon to ever
hit the game, and if that's all he's got the lustre might quickly
wear off...
glenn
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76.86 | | MCIS1::DHAMEL | Forgot to cut my imbecilical cord | Thu Mar 05 1992 11:17 | 7 |
|
Reports are that Bo isn't doing too well, hobbling badly because of
the hip thang. Could sideline him forever, as was speculated when he
first got the injury.
Dickstah
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76.87 | | ROYALT::ASHE | Ok, but I'm really leaving soon... | Fri Mar 06 1992 13:36 | 1 |
| Saw him on Sportscenter. He looked awful...
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76.88 | | RUGBY1::way | Son House RULES! | Fri Mar 06 1992 13:40 | 9 |
| He has the same problem that Neil Lomax has, right? A degenerative
disease which attacks the hip joint?
My question is, while it would probably preclude athletics, would hip
replacement be a viable option to allow him to walk normally?
'Saw
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76.89 | Bo knows Bye,Bye | CSC32::FARRAHER | Send lawyers, guns & money | Mon Mar 09 1992 03:39 | 1 |
| He's on waivers
|