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Conference atlana::christian_v4

Title:	Christian conference v4 - Read-only - for reference only
Notice:	Christian conference v4 - archived
Moderator:	ATLANA::SHERMAN

Created:	Tue Apr 04 1989
Last Modified:	Wed Oct 27 1993
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1251
Total number of notes:	24772

49.0. "The Plan of Salvation" by FTMUDG::MCDOWELL (HE must increase, I must decrease) Sat Apr 29 1989 05:23

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
49.1	What do We do?	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Sat Apr 29 1989 06:31`	114
49.2	Endure to the end	SLOVAX::KOTTER	Rich Kotter	`Sun Apr 30 1989 15:29`	16
49.3		AITG::MAHONEY		`Sun Apr 30 1989 20:05`	10
49.4	Reply	CGVAX2::PAINTER	Nothing is written.	`Sun Apr 30 1989 23:04`	11
49.5	Love and Salvation are from God.	WOODRO::RPOLAND		`Mon May 01 1989 13:40`	42
49.6	It's a gift	TOOLS::MCKIE	In Search of...	`Mon May 01 1989 14:45`	12
49.7	Yes	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Mon May 01 1989 15:36`	7
49.8	fully paid by Jesus Christ; free to all who accepts.	CLOSUS::HOE	Sammy's cranky molars are coming.	`Mon May 01 1989 17:33`	14
49.9		WILKIE::RPOLAND		`Mon May 01 1989 17:46`	2
49.10	The Top Two	MUTHA::STARIN		`Mon May 01 1989 17:47`	12
49.11	Messy Me!	WILKIE::RPOLAND		`Mon May 01 1989 17:52`	18
49.12	hmmmm... interesting...	AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA	Mark \ DTN:522-5317	`Mon May 01 1989 18:36`	15
49.13	Your response was vague	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 01 1989 18:45`	17
49.14	faith balanced with knowledge	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 01 1989 18:57`	26
49.15	Faith and Response go hand in hand	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 01 1989 19:05`	15
49.16		AITG::MAHONEY		`Mon May 01 1989 19:40`	46
49.17	Being obediant results in these other things...	LEDS::LAJEUNESSE	To obey is better than sacrifice!	`Mon May 01 1989 19:44`	56
49.18	Belief alone does not equal faith	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 01 1989 21:20`	56
49.19	It's in the Blood, not baptism.	WOODRO::KRAWIECKI	God > than any problem I have	`Mon May 01 1989 22:02`	24
49.20	One Item not Covered Tony	KAOFS::MUNROE		`Mon May 01 1989 22:03`	4
49.21	FAITH	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Tue May 02 1989 01:59`	47
49.22	Follow the directions	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Tue May 02 1989 05:03`	92
49.23		AITG::MAHONEY		`Tue May 02 1989 06:15`	30
49.24	Try it, you'll like it!!	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Tue May 02 1989 11:41`	39
49.25	Love Must Be Based On Truth	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Tue May 02 1989 14:38`	21
49.26		NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Tue May 02 1989 16:26`	10
49.27	ok, my turn ;-)	AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA	Mark \ DTN:522-5317	`Tue May 02 1989 17:53`	100
49.28	Faith and Obedience work together	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Tue May 02 1989 17:57`	33
49.29	MHO, FWIW	HDLITE::PHANEUF	TP Business Info Tech (Matt 11:12)	`Tue May 02 1989 22:25`	40
49.30	A quandry	CSC32::G_JOHNSON	Just a nickle's worth of dreams	`Wed May 03 1989 00:24`	74
49.31	Solution to quandry	RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed May 03 1989 01:56`	26
49.32	Yes, I'm still here...	HANNAH::MESSENGER	Bob Messenger	`Wed May 03 1989 03:37`	30
49.33		RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed May 03 1989 05:08`	32
49.34	Concerning Baptism	LUDWIG::BARBIERI		`Wed May 03 1989 05:12`	52
49.35	Help me understand your point	HANNAH::MESSENGER	Bob Messenger	`Wed May 03 1989 06:11`	39
49.36	Spirits taught the gospel	RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed May 03 1989 09:03`	61
49.37	reply	MEMV01::CARMISCIANO		`Wed May 03 1989 13:18`	59
49.38	question to Mormons	MEMV01::CARMISCIANO		`Wed May 03 1989 13:28`	20
49.39	Is not the Good Thief in heaven ?	IRNBRU::FYFE	Just passin' through...	`Wed May 03 1989 14:00`	45
49.40		ELWOOD::DYMON		`Wed May 03 1989 14:01`	13
49.41	A couple more questions about baptism for the dead	HANNAH::MESSENGER	Bob Messenger	`Wed May 03 1989 15:12`	54
49.42	Believe, YES, rules, NO.	CSC32::G_JOHNSON	Just a nickle's worth of dreams	`Wed May 03 1989 16:39`	18
49.43	Bapt of HS not the same as the indwelling	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed May 03 1989 17:38`	37
49.44	Request for scriptural support	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed May 03 1989 18:21`	25
49.45	To boldly go where no Scriptures have gone before...	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed May 03 1989 18:34`	25
49.46		RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed May 03 1989 19:02`	94
49.47	Thief on Cross - Revisited	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed May 03 1989 19:13`	26
49.48		VLNVAX::FRENIERE		`Wed May 03 1989 19:17`	3
49.49	more replies..	MEMV01::CARMISCIANO		`Wed May 03 1989 19:23`	43
49.50	TRY THE OPENING OF THE GOSPELS.	ELWOOD::CORNEAU	Life because of Him	`Wed May 03 1989 19:34`	10
49.51		LEDS::LAJEUNESSE	To obey is better than sacrifice!	`Wed May 03 1989 20:20`	18
49.52	Look for consistency and there find truth!	LEDS::LAJEUNESSE	To obey is better than sacrifice!	`Wed May 03 1989 20:34`	48
49.53	But what does the BIBLE say?	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Thu May 04 1989 01:39`	66
49.54	Everytime you bring up this subject...	HDLITE::PHANEUF	TP Business Info Tech (Matt 11:12)	`Thu May 04 1989 02:40`	16
49.55		MAMIE::KRAWIECKI	God > than any problem I have	`Thu May 04 1989 14:36`	44
49.56	Let all the brothers say, AMEN!	LEDS::LAJEUNESSE	To obey is better than sacrifice!	`Thu May 04 1989 15:07`	7
49.57	Baptism, As I Rember It Being Taught	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Thu May 04 1989 17:45`	16
49.58	Philipian Jailer - Salvation after baptism	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Thu May 04 1989 17:45`	42
49.59	Baptizo = "identification"	AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA	Come To The Quiet	`Thu May 04 1989 17:56`	90
49.60	You should be able to find these in your Bible	LEDS::LAJEUNESSE	To obey is better than sacrifice!	`Thu May 04 1989 18:23`	57
49.61	Baptism Stuff	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Thu May 04 1989 19:28`	88
49.63		MAMIE::KRAWIECKI	God > than any problem I have	`Thu May 04 1989 19:59`	68
49.64	Sorry, no formulas here!	BSS::RJONES	The Mirthful Mystic	`Thu May 04 1989 20:00`	13
49.65	He's my Friend, at any cost...	STOKES::CAMPOS		`Thu May 04 1989 21:02`	13
49.66	Limbo Is Uncertainty	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Thu May 04 1989 21:06`	30
49.67	baptism -> participation in death, burial, and resurrection	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Thu May 04 1989 23:18`	80
49.68	oooo-kaaay	AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA	Come To The Quiet	`Fri May 05 1989 00:37`	20
49.69	Jesus preached to the spirits!	RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Fri May 05 1989 05:30`	96
49.70	Acts 2:38	MEMV01::CARMISCIANO		`Fri May 05 1989 05:31`	55
49.71	Could we discuss baptism for the dead in note 63?	HANNAH::MESSENGER	Bob Messenger	`Fri May 05 1989 06:12`	7
49.72	You love Him, PROVE IT!	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Fri May 05 1989 06:36`	82
49.73	Unto Perfection	MAMIE::RPOLAND		`Fri May 05 1989 14:11`	70
49.74	Confirmation, The Completion Of Baptism	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 05 1989 14:41`	42
49.75	scenario time	MAMIE::KRAWIECKI	God > than any problem I have	`Fri May 05 1989 14:41`	14
49.76	unto thee O' Lord	VLNVAX::FRENIERE		`Fri May 05 1989 14:48`	12
49.77	where do they bury the survivors?	STU01::RMARSHALL		`Fri May 05 1989 14:51`	9
49.78	IMHO	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 05 1989 15:00`	20
49.79		MAMIE::KRAWIECKI	God > than any problem I have	`Fri May 05 1989 15:01`	11
49.80	I've crossed the Red Sea of His death	ISLNDS::LOPEZ_A	The Church: The FULNESS of the One	`Fri May 05 1989 15:56`	61
49.81	The full gospel	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 16:49`	48
49.82	8:59	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 17:41`	31
49.83	So ... how long can you hold YOUR breath?	DYO780::SCHAFER	Brad - back in Ohio.	`Fri May 05 1989 18:07`	12
49.84		WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Fri May 05 1989 18:16`	30
49.85		WILKIE::RPOLAND		`Fri May 05 1989 18:34`	67
49.86	Pickled and Preserved	ISLNDS::LOPEZ_A	The Church: The FULNESS of the One	`Fri May 05 1989 18:45`	14
49.87	The Philipian Jailer - revisited	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 19:24`	54
49.88	Wait a minute!	REGENT::JAMI		`Fri May 05 1989 19:45`	24
49.89	Yep!	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 20:09`	17
49.90	Special case scenario	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 20:31`	23
49.91	Moses and the Red Sea Parallels	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 20:41`	17
49.92	The Two Greatest What?	MUTHA::STARIN		`Fri May 05 1989 21:21`	4
49.93	Forgiveness of sins	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 05 1989 22:08`	47
49.94	Seek the reality, not theology	ISLNDS::LOPEZ_A	The Church: The FULNESS of the One	`Fri May 05 1989 23:26`	54
49.95		LEDS::LAJEUNESSE	To obey is better than sacrifice!	`Sat May 06 1989 02:37`	44
49.96	This Is Important	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Sun May 07 1989 14:39`	48
49.97	I Peter 3:20-21	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 08 1989 17:27`	58
49.98	Gal 3:26-27	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 08 1989 20:05`	51
49.99	Then I saw a great multitude...	IRNBRU::FYFE	Just passin' through...	`Tue May 09 1989 13:47`	118
49.100	questions raised by your reply	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Tue May 09 1989 14:40`	19
49.101	All Is Not Lost Tom	KAOFS::MUNROE		`Tue May 09 1989 15:36`	13
49.102	Search for Truth..	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Wed May 10 1989 00:08`	59
49.103		RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed May 10 1989 01:38`	7
49.104	Contradiction in Terms, Here...	HDLITE::PHANEUF	TP Business Info Tech (Matt 11:12)	`Wed May 10 1989 02:25`	21
49.105	Even Moses was forgiven...but	IRNBRU::FYFE	Just passin' through...	`Wed May 10 1989 11:13`	97
49.106	A Little Something To Think About	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Wed May 10 1989 15:31`	11
49.107	Check out .99 Tom	KAOFS::MUNROE		`Wed May 10 1989 15:48`	17
49.108		KAOFS::MUNROE		`Wed May 10 1989 15:52`	8
49.109		ISLNDS::LOPEZ_A	Being pickled in the Triune God	`Wed May 10 1989 16:05`	9
49.110	I have accepted Christ's offer	IRNBRU::FYFE	Just passin' through...	`Wed May 10 1989 17:26`	38
49.111	Sins Forgiven=Sins Forgotten=Nothing Left to Pay	KAOFS::MUNROE		`Wed May 10 1989 18:05`	23
49.112	I'm done.	AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA	Come To The Quiet	`Wed May 10 1989 18:21`	35
49.113	Bereans more noble than Thessalonians	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed May 10 1989 19:34`	41
49.114	PSALM 119:97-112	AZTECH::BILLINGSLEA	Come To The Quiet	`Wed May 10 1989 20:02`	14
49.115		HDLITE::PHANEUF	TP Business Info Tech (Matt 11:12)	`Thu May 11 1989 00:11`	37
49.116	WHAT?!?!	HDLITE::PHANEUF	TP Business Info Tech (Matt 11:12)	`Thu May 11 1989 00:16`	16
49.117	Where is _THIS_ found?	HDLITE::PHANEUF	TP Business Info Tech (Matt 11:12)	`Thu May 11 1989 00:22`	15
49.118	Re .117's query	ICTHUS::YUILLE	Jesus Won!	`Thu May 11 1989 09:22`	4
49.119	One last question...	IRNBRU::FYFE	Just passin' through...	`Fri May 12 1989 10:03`	37
49.120	?	KAOFS::MUNROE		`Fri May 12 1989 14:35`	5
49.121	Part Of Church History	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 12 1989 17:11`	40
49.122	Better to drop it	ISLNDS::LOPEZ_A	Being pickled in the Triune God	`Fri May 12 1989 17:34`	18
49.123	Salvation by Faith or Faith + 'Brightness'? Part 1	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 18:44`	88
49.124	Salvation by Faith or Faith + 'Brightness'? Part 2	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 18:45`	96
49.125	Doctrine Built On Truth	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 12 1989 18:57`	25
49.126	Tom: Here's a Real Big Reason!!	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 18:59`	35
49.127	Something I Noticed Tony	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 19:05`	26
49.128	Salvation Through Obedience ?	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 12 1989 19:14`	22
49.129	This Truth Magnifies The Cross!!	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 20:44`	22
49.130	Abraham was not perfectly obedient.	KAOFS::MUNROE		`Fri May 12 1989 20:45`	4
49.131	Abraham was a liar!	BBOVAX::ALFONSI	Jesus Saves	`Fri May 12 1989 20:48`	2
49.132	Let's define the terms - Faith	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 12 1989 20:59`	49
49.133		NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri May 12 1989 21:13`	11
49.135	If Its Not Obedience, Then What ?	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 12 1989 21:33`	15
49.136	how I see it	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Fri May 12 1989 22:18`	31
49.137	Stuborn As A Rock	PCCAD1::RICHARDJ	Bluegrass,Music Aged to Perfection	`Fri May 12 1989 22:40`	10
49.138	Thought I Was Logical!!	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 22:53`	53
49.139	Ramblings	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Fri May 12 1989 23:10`	46
49.140	What is the correct heart response?	NRPUR::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon May 15 1989 18:26`	75
49.141	Faith topic started	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Tue May 16 1989 06:47`	9
49.142	Real Busy Right Now	ROULET::BARBIERI		`Thu May 18 1989 18:21`	7
49.143	FREE GRACE BY ELECTION	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Sun Jun 18 1989 03:56`	14
49.144	FIVE PHASES OF SALVATION	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Sun Jun 18 1989 04:00`	7
49.145	I think you misunderstood...	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon Jun 19 1989 20:49`	25
49.146	JOHN'S BAPTISM	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Wed Jun 21 1989 00:41`	18
49.147	?	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Wed Jun 21 1989 04:18`	37
49.149	Another 3 in 1?	WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Wed Jun 21 1989 13:54`	9
49.150	Ahhh....just like old times ;)	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Wed Jun 21 1989 14:00`	6
49.151	Consider this	RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed Jun 21 1989 14:38`	100
49.152		WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Wed Jun 21 1989 14:53`	20
49.153	Thanks	RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed Jun 21 1989 15:15`	11
49.154		WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Wed Jun 21 1989 16:38`	7
49.155	Some questions for you Rich.	WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Wed Jun 21 1989 16:56`	19
49.156	Come Follow Me...	RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Wed Jun 21 1989 22:02`	60
49.157	FOOT WASHING	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Wed Jun 21 1989 22:32`	9
49.158	I stand corrected	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Thu Jun 22 1989 01:19`	27
49.159		RIPPLE::KOTTERRI	Rich Kotter	`Thu Jun 22 1989 01:41`	18
49.160	Labels, labels, sigh...	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Thu Jun 22 1989 01:44`	28
49.161	FOLLOWER OF CHRIST	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Thu Jun 22 1989 03:25`	18
49.162	Could you tell us more about foot washing?	HANNAH::MESSENGER	Bob Messenger	`Thu Jun 22 1989 05:54`	13
49.163	gratitude for the privilege of serving	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Thu Jun 22 1989 14:35`	17
49.164	All our righteousness' are as filthy rags!	WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Thu Jun 22 1989 14:57`	62
49.165	...a leading question....;)	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Thu Jun 22 1989 17:24`	14
49.166	Simply put: To make disciples.	WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Thu Jun 22 1989 18:07`	35
49.167	WOULD LIKE YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE.	ELWOOD::CORNEAU	Life because of Him	`Thu Jun 22 1989 19:19`	34
49.168	FOOT WASHING	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Thu Jun 22 1989 21:26`	11
49.169	Unto what name were ye baptized then?	WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Thu Jun 22 1989 21:42`	52
49.170	John's baptism is invalid	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Thu Jun 22 1989 23:00`	28
49.171	a little history, fwiw	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Fri Jun 23 1989 03:17`	104
49.172		WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Fri Jun 23 1989 14:53`	24
49.173		WMOIS::CE_JOHNSON	A white stone with my new name.	`Fri Jun 23 1989 15:56`	44
49.174	Baptism of John = beginning of Jesus' Ministry	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Fri Jun 23 1989 18:28`	35
49.175	IN CHRIST	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Sat Jun 24 1989 22:21`	19
49.176	TOOK ON THE NAME OF CHRISTIAN	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Sun Jun 25 1989 00:46`	21
49.177	a bit more trivia	NUTMEG::PULKSTENIS	Share my hope	`Mon Jun 26 1989 03:02`	72
49.178	John's authority was from God	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed Jun 28 1989 17:31`	18
49.179	Explanation of Eph 1:3-5	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed Jun 28 1989 19:16`	82
49.180	Baptism does not save	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed Jun 28 1989 20:47`	22
49.181	What about Acts 2:38 and others...	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed Jun 28 1989 21:13`	23
49.182	Baptism viewed as a 'work'	MILPND::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Wed Jun 28 1989 21:19`	18
49.183	FORMULA FOR SALVATION	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Sun Jul 16 1989 02:14`	11
49.184	Could you explain a little more?	HANNAH::MESSENGER	Bob Messenger	`Sun Jul 16 1989 02:59`	19
49.185	bad logic...	CEOWS::BALSAMO	Save the Wails	`Mon Jul 17 1989 18:56`	28
49.186	The Half hasn't been told!	FTMUDG::MCDOWELL	HE must increase, I must decrease	`Tue Jul 18 1989 05:19`	26
49.187	Complete Salvation	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Sat Jul 22 1989 02:26`	21
49.188	WHEAT AND TARES	RAVEN1::WATKINS		`Thu Sep 14 1989 21:23`	9
49.189		KEIKI::WELLA		`Tue Oct 24 1989 23:10`	18