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Conference 7.286::macintosh

Title:Apple Macintosh Volume II
Notice:Mac is NOT an acronym - it's Mac or Macintosh *not* MAC
Moderator:SMURF::BINDERONS
Created:Sun Jan 20 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:964
Total number of notes:30983

456.0. "Apple's PowerPC" by RT128::BATES (NAS-ty Boy) Sun May 09 1993 22:59

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456.1The PowerPC in Your Future - He We Grow AgainRT128::BATESNAS-ty BoySun May 09 1993 23:00442
456.2The obvious question....MSBCS::BORSOMMon May 10 1993 15:397
456.3PowerPC MacintoshHANNAH::VOBATue May 11 1993 19:26137
456.411 Major Software Developers Commit to Mac on PowerPCRT128::BATESNAS-ty BoySun May 16 1993 18:2879
456.5Top Developer Q&A'sRT128::BATESNAS-ty BoySun May 16 1993 18:29183
456.6PowerPC Ten CommandmentsRT128::BATESNAS-ty BoySun May 16 1993 18:2918
456.7PRNSYS::LOMICKAJJeffrey A. LomickaMon May 17 1993 14:525
456.8Read Inside Macintosh carefullyESD55::CASSIDYExcept when you don't, because sometimes you won'tWed May 19 1993 09:548
456.9LILITH::CALLASManners before morals.Tue May 25 1993 17:428
456.10Only Apple's PowerPC to have 680x0 Instructions in ROMRT128::BATESNAS-ty BoyTue Jun 29 1993 22:4052
456.12Strategies for moving to PowerPCE::EVANSMon Mar 14 1994 13:529
456.13watch for a little while, then just get a Power MacRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsMon Mar 14 1994 15:1227
456.14SMURF::BINDEROmnia tibi dicta non credeMon Mar 14 1994 15:318
456.15intel won't stand still, so does PowerPC have longer legsRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsMon Mar 14 1994 18:5814
456.16Seen oneEEMELI::KOKKONinetynine and a half ain't enufTue Mar 15 1994 00:5113
456.17even LC modells will be upgradable!MANIOK::BERLINGHOFEurope is: �������!!!!Tue Mar 15 1994 06:167
456.11Everything you ever wanted to know about the Power MacintoshRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsTue Mar 15 1994 08:39370
456.18SMURF::BINDEROmnia tibi dicta non credeTue Mar 15 1994 09:046
456.19Power PC will run games?CECEHV::NAGEL_EErlend NagelTue Mar 15 1994 10:165
456.20it,s exciting but...SALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Mar 15 1994 10:4218
456.21Day 1 impressionsAZUR::DESOZAJean-Pierre Sophia-Antipolis, DTN 828-5559Wed Mar 16 1994 03:4337
456.22Apple lets us down once againEMESOH::SCHULTZSucking on Old ToadsThu Mar 17 1994 11:1811
456.23Two headed 6100/60AV?RUMOR::SEVIERStudying the migratory habits of toys...Thu Mar 17 1994 21:4010
456.24HANNAH::ALFREDAlfred von Campe, DECterm Eng.Thu Mar 17 1994 22:4812
456.25ATLANT::SCHMIDTWhere's the 'Apple Menu' on this?Fri Mar 18 1994 07:5321
456.26HANNAH::ALFREDAlfred von Campe, DECterm Eng.Fri Mar 18 1994 09:127
456.27CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOFri Mar 18 1994 11:1315
456.28I bought a 6100/60LEDS::MICHAELFri Apr 15 1994 10:0425
456.29ATLANT::SCHMIDTWhere's the 'Apple Menu' on this?Fri Apr 15 1994 12:0952
456.30exLEDS::MICHAELFri Apr 15 1994 12:5711
456.31LEDS::PRIBORSKYD&SG: We are opportunity drivenSat Apr 16 1994 10:1334
456.32RISC code space?ATLANT::SCHMIDTWhere's the 'Apple Menu' on this?Thu Apr 21 1994 10:4013
456.33First-order approximation.SMURF::BINDERUt res per me meliores fiantThu Apr 21 1994 10:519
456.34HANNAH::ALFREDAlfred von Campe, DECterm Eng.Thu Apr 21 1994 11:2413
456.35SMURF::BINDERUt res per me meliores fiantThu Apr 21 1994 11:451
456.36AZUR::DESOZAJean-Pierre Sophia-Antipolis, DTN 828-5559Thu Apr 21 1994 12:3218
456.37Speculate smaller than Windows!HANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Thu Apr 21 1994 12:5412
456.38ATLANT::SCHMIDTWhere's the 'Apple Menu' on this?Thu Apr 21 1994 12:587
456.39LEDS::PRIBORSKYD&SG: We are opportunity drivenThu May 19 1994 22:0815
456.40Initial observationsHANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Sat May 21 1994 15:0540
456.41More impressions from an early adopterHANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Mon Jun 06 1994 10:4832
456.42Ready to buy....nowMOTTLE::DECAROLISJeanneTue Jun 14 1994 11:479
456.43Confused by "does not include logic board"RANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsTue Jun 14 1994 12:4030
456.44Do I have it right yet??MOTTLE::DECAROLISJeanneTue Jun 14 1994 14:0011
456.45SoftWindows does it in softwareMUZICK::WARNERIt's only work if they make you do itTue Jun 14 1994 15:093
456.46I suggest waiting to get PC support until you need itRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsTue Jun 14 1994 15:5328
456.47CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOTue Jun 14 1994 16:583
456.48Houdini may be dead, but he may have a long-lost brother, PowerHoudiniMACSRV::COPPOLAAnthony - PATHWORKS for MacintoshTue Jun 14 1994 17:015
456.49New 486 emulators for PowerMac coming...MACSRV::COPPOLAAnthony - PATHWORKS for MacintoshTue Jun 14 1994 17:0613
456.50Orange MicroEEMELI::KOKKONinetynine and a half ain't enufWed Jun 15 1994 02:054
456.51LN03R with PowerMac?MIMS::TURCOTTE_STue Jun 21 1994 00:489
456.52Bite the bullet, buy an 1152WMOENG::ANDERSON_BWed Jun 22 1994 14:3526
456.53Worth $300 towards the purchase of an 1152HANNAH::ANDERSONWed Jun 22 1994 15:288
456.54Act now!I18N::GLANTZWed Jun 22 1994 17:425
456.55supplies should be plentiful--lots of printers use that engineREGENT::LASKOCPBU Desktop Hardcopy SystemsThu Jun 23 1994 13:404
456.56Time to switch!PHONES::KOTOKAlan Kotok, DTN 223-5381Thu Jun 23 1994 15:016
456.57Still running...DECIDE::MOFFITTThu Jun 23 1994 15:2710
456.58Apple is working to break that!YOUNG::YOUNGPaulFri Jun 24 1994 11:517
456.59REGENT::LASKOCPBU Desktop Hardcopy SystemsFri Jun 24 1994 17:126
456.60No Quickdraw GX here...DECIDE::MOFFITTSat Jun 25 1994 19:198
456.616100/60 -> 80 mhz?HANNAH::SPIELMANFri Jul 22 1994 15:406
456.626100/60 -> 80 mhz !!SMURF::BINDERetsi capularis ego vita fruarFri Jul 22 1994 17:1812
456.63Well if you're lucky you can run faster...CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/2-N12 ColoradoSun Jul 24 1994 00:1815
456.64ATLANT::SCHMIDTTOEM Engineering, MRO1-1 Pole KL32Mon Jul 25 1994 11:4641
456.65CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/2-N12 ColoradoMon Jul 25 1994 13:0117
456.66Clock-Chipping a 6100ROCK::BAKKESteve Bakke - DTN 225-5056Thu Jul 28 1994 16:4113
456.67Where's the FPU on an 8100?TNPUBS::BDAYWed Sep 14 1994 10:4514
456.68Beware...PILCH::HELMUTMember of Hotblack Desiato's Desaster AreaWed Sep 14 1994 10:5813
456.69VORTEX::SMURF::BINDERetsi capularis ego vita fruarWed Sep 14 1994 13:007
456.70Real 68LC040 have an MMU, just Power Mac emulations don'tRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsWed Sep 14 1994 14:4732
456.71SoftwareFPUTNPUBS::BDAYWed Sep 14 1994 21:396
456.72Is this newer than what is already in the archives?RANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsWed Sep 14 1994 23:288
456.73It's already in there!TNPUBS::BDAYThu Sep 15 1994 07:383
456.747100 VRAMYOUNG::YOUNGPaulWed Oct 19 1994 14:1415
456.75Paul, see SIMM stack 4.4 (HUMANE::MAC$INFO:SIMM_STACK_4_4)MACSRV::coppolaPATHWORKS for MacintoshWed Oct 19 1994 16:102
456.76VGA on a PowerMac...adapter needed?BARSTR::CASEY_MMon Nov 07 1994 13:1417
456.77RANGER::WASSERJohn A. WasserMon Nov 07 1994 14:0920
456.78Why?RANGER::ACVAX::coppolaPATHWORKS for MacintoshTue Nov 08 1994 09:2212
456.79CALDEC::GOETZENo new hardware? No problem.Mon Jan 16 1995 14:085
456.81CALDEC::GOETZENo new hardware? No problem.Mon Jan 16 1995 14:525
456.82Power PC Upgrade?STOWOA::SMITH_JFri Mar 10 1995 14:4834
456.83SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareFri Mar 10 1995 17:0523
456.84NETCAD::EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedFri Mar 10 1995 17:3611
456.85HANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Fri Mar 10 1995 17:3913
456.86Anything in ROM can be bypassedRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsFri Mar 10 1995 21:5220
456.87L2 cacheNETCAD::EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedTue Mar 14 1995 17:2514
456.88HANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Wed Mar 15 1995 09:276
456.89Bigger might be betterNEWENG::ANDERSON_BWed Mar 15 1995 12:0317
456.90upping the anteHANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Wed Mar 15 1995 16:0420
456.91JURA::COISSARDThu Mar 16 1995 04:036
456.92NETCAD::EZRIDR::SIEGELThe revolution wil not be televisedThu Mar 16 1995 17:297
456.93Question on SIMM sockets near PDS slot in 6100/6115ROCK::WATSONN1GNB, DTN 225-4898, 293-5922Fri Mar 17 1995 10:1713
456.94long term clock chipping reportTINCUP::WATSONFri Mar 17 1995 10:5019
456.95Inside the 6100 boxACVAX::CoppolaPATHWORKS for MacintoshMon Mar 20 1995 13:5122
456.9661xx takes all three sizesATLANT::SCHMIDTE&RT -- Embedded and RealTime EngineeringMon Mar 20 1995 14:5511
456.97How much a help is adding L2 cache to a 6100-based Mac?ROCK::WATSONN1GNB, DTN 225-4898, 293-5922Mon Mar 20 1995 15:5410
456.98SMURF::BINDERvitam gustareMon Mar 20 1995 16:183
456.99PricesEEMELI::KOKKONinetynine and a half ain't enufTue Mar 21 1995 08:213
456.100Whew!ACVAX::CoppolaPATHWORKS for MacintoshTue Mar 21 1995 09:1412
456.101Newer Technologies "GURU" - whazzat??SNOC02::COLDRICKRallying onTue Mar 21 1995 15:371
456.102HUMANE""::MAC$GENERAL:GURU_V1_0_7.INSTALLERRANGER::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsTue Mar 21 1995 15:420
456.1037100 monitor cable questionEYLAK::BATESKen BatesSat Mar 25 1995 09:1714
456.104How about checking...CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/2-N12 ColoradoSat Mar 25 1995 10:519
456.105Thanks...EYLAK::BATESKen BatesSat Mar 25 1995 11:4712
456.106Digital will have it soon!ATLANT::SCHMIDTE&RT -- Embedded and RealTime EngineeringSun Mar 26 1995 14:338
456.107CALDEC::GOETZEDer Blaue Reiter; 1911Mon Mar 27 1995 14:199
456.108I want sync on green!EYLAK::BATESKen BatesMon Mar 27 1995 19:4927
456.109Back in the saddle again...EYLAK::BATESKen BatesTue Mar 28 1995 14:2611
456.110Say it's true!FUNYET::ANDERSONSupport the $1 coin!Thu Mar 30 1995 20:286
456.111Some more detailEYLAK::BATESKen BatesThu Mar 30 1995 23:0340
456.112MaybeFUNYET::ANDERSONSupport the $1 coin!Fri Mar 31 1995 11:205
456.113Maybe...EYLAK::BATESKen BatesFri Mar 31 1995 13:4122
456.114CSOA1::LENNIGDave (N8JCX), MIG, @CYOThu Apr 27 1995 10:0710
456.115ATLANT::SCHMIDTE&RT -- Embedded and RealTime EngineeringThu Apr 27 1995 11:214
456.116new PowerMacsDPE1::ARMSTRONGThu Jan 04 1996 11:1031
456.117SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Thu Jan 04 1996 11:2713
456.118SCHOOL::SEGOOLMike Segool DTN 226-5896Thu Jan 04 1996 12:0212
456.119POBOXB::TSUKMichael TsukThu Jan 04 1996 12:1832
456.120Some ideas, but more RAM is a definite plusUNIFIX::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsThu Jan 04 1996 12:2538
456.121Some INIT memory informationEYLAK::BATESKen BatesThu Jan 04 1996 12:4634
456.122ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Thu Jan 04 1996 16:4213
456.123Desktop File toast?ECADSR::ARMSTRONGSat Jan 06 1996 22:4628
456.124Sounds like a prob with the directories.CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/B10 ColoradoSun Jan 07 1996 02:4122
456.125ThanksECADSR::ARMSTRONGSun Jan 07 1996 09:0616
456.126Update online.CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/B10 ColoradoMon Jan 08 1996 14:148
456.127ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Mon Jan 08 1996 17:1514
456.128Catalog corruptionUNIFIX::HARRISJuggling has its ups and downsMon Jan 08 1996 19:5026
456.129BINGOECADSR::ARMSTRONGMon Jan 08 1996 20:2917
456.130Atlant's "clean up by name" suggestion is a good oneROCK::WATSONN1GNB, DTN 225-4898, 293-5922Tue Jan 09 1996 10:359
456.131ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Tue Jan 09 1996 11:2217
456.132virtual memory and PowerMacsSNOFS1::COLDRICKDI've been Forte'fiedTue Jan 23 1996 01:1710
456.133CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/B10 ColoradoTue Jan 23 1996 02:0310
456.134Direct map of code as virtual memory.POBOXB::TSUKMichael TsukTue Jan 23 1996 07:069
456.135ECADSR::ARMSTRONGTue Jan 23 1996 10:1913
456.136TLE::REAGANAll of this chaos makes perfect senseTue Jan 23 1996 10:248
456.137TAMARA::TAMARA::CLARKLee Clark,DTN:381-0422,TeamLinksTue Jan 23 1996 11:082
456.138SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Tue Jan 23 1996 11:2316
456.139My experience w/ MacOS memory [un]managementAZUR::HUREZOMS/GPS Technology @VBE DTN: 828-5159Tue Jan 23 1996 11:4128
456.140SMURF::BINDEREis qui nos doment vescimur.Tue Jan 23 1996 15:227
456.141CALDEC::GOETZEerik goetze; The sky one January morning had that KPT Bryce quality to itWed Jan 24 1996 17:137
456.142native PowerPC application?SNOFS1::COLDRICKDI've been Forte'fiedWed Mar 13 1996 18:485
456.143SMURF::BINDERManus Celer DeiThu Mar 14 1996 13:286
456.144PowerCheck 2.1 in MACONLINEAC8100::CoppolaPATHWORKS/Macintosh EngineeringFri Mar 15 1996 13:1113
456.145that's what I want - thanks, AnthonySNOFS1::COLDRICKDI've been Forte'fiedMon Mar 18 1996 06:551
456.146DPE1::ARMSTRONGWed Jul 17 1996 00:0436
456.147Some ideasRANGER::COPPOLAPATHWORKS/Macintosh EngineeringWed Jul 17 1996 12:1379
456.148CALDEC::GOETZEerik goetze; The joy is in the going. We are betrayed by destinaWed Jul 17 1996 21:308
456.149Apple announces 6500/300DPE1::ARMSTRONGFri Apr 04 1997 14:06205
Friday April 4 8:30 AM EDT

Apple Introduces First 300 Megahertz Desktop Computer

Simplifies Desktop Line Under Power Macintosh Brand

LAKE BUENA VISTA, Fla., April 4 /PRNewswire/ --
Apple Computer Inc is bringing unprecedented speed to the
home desktop with today's announcement of the Apple
Power Macintosh 6500/300 -- the first 300 megahertz
system available today. Following less than two months
after Apple introduced the fastest laptop computer currently
available, the new Power Macintosh 6500 line gives
customers a choice of systems ranging in speeds from 225
to 300 megahertz, all with accelerated multimedia features;
built-in Internet access capabilities; and, advanced video
capture, edit and publishing options. The announcement
reflects Apple's drive toward a simplified desktop line under
the strength of the Power Macintosh brand.

"The introduction of the first 300 megahertz personal
computers should be viewed as a sign that Apple is one
hundred percent committed to providing individuals with the
most powerful multimedia systems for home, small
business, and education," said Guerrino de Luca, Apple's
executive vice president of Marketing. "Our new Power
Macintosh 6500 series matches world class power with the
competitive prices that consumers expect."

Aggressively priced in the United States from around U.S.
$2,000 for the Power Macintosh 6500/225 to around U.S.
$3,000 for the top-of-the-line Power Macintosh 6500/300,
the new series is designed to run Mac OS 7.6, the upcoming
Mac OS 8, as well as Apple's next-generation Macintosh
system software -- code named Rhapsody.

The unveiling of the Power Macintosh 6500 series is
marked by the kick-off of a three-day "Multimedia
Discovery" technology fair at Walt Disney World in Lake
Buena Vista, Fla. Co-hosted by Apple and Disney, the fair
showcases the power and fun of multimedia with
performance and capabilities that only the Macintosh can
deliver. From playing the hottest 3D accelerated games for
the Macintosh, to exploring video conferencing as a way for
students to solve typical school homework problems, the
technology fair offers interactive and engaging multimedia
activities at the Epcot Theme Park along with special media
creativity workshops being held at Apple's existing exhibit
at Innoventions. All activities are planned to take place from
April 4 through 6 and are designed to provide Disney guests
the opportunity to discover the dynamic world of multimedia
using leading-edge Apple technology.

Power Macintosh Systems Equipped With New Motorola
PowerPC Chip

The new Power Macintosh 6500 series significantly
enhances performance in areas such as media capture,
creation, editing and publishing, 2D and 3D graphics and
processor speed for home, small business and education
customers. Based on in-house tests running real
applications, the new Power Macintosh systems complete
tasks up to twice the speed of Pentium processors with
MMX technology running at 200 megahertz. A user's actual
performance may vary depending on what tasks they are
performing.

"Our version of the PowerPC 603e chip is the first
mainstream, volume microprocessor in the industry to reach
the speed of 300 MHz," said Tom Gunter, corporate vice
president and general manager of Motorola's RISC
Microprocessor Division. "Motorola applauds Apple's
ability to bring both the fastest home desktop and the fastest
notebook to the market within two months of each other --
all based on the high-performance, low-power PowerPC
603e microprocessor family."

Performance, User Experience, Connectivity,
Compatibility, Industrial Design All Part Of The Power
Macintosh Experience

The Power Macintosh 6500 mini-tower systems are
equipped with powerful integrated hardware and software
components. Each come with a minimum 256K level 2
cache, with 512K standard on the 6500/275 and 6500/300
systems; 32MB to 64MB of RAM (expandable to 128MB);
a 3GB or 4GB hard drive; 16-bit CD-quality stereo sound
with SRS surround sound and integrated dual-mode
subwoofer; and, Iomega Zip drives are standard in three
models allowing customers to easily transfer large files,
backup critical applications and expand storage capacity.
The ATI RAGE II graphics acceleration chip provides Mac
customers with video and graphics performance previously
seen only in high-end systems. The 6500 series' advanced
multimedia functionality includes accelerated QuickTime and
QuickTime MPEG for impressive full screen, full motion
movie playback; accelerated QuickDraw and QuickDraw 3D
for fast, fluid handling of complex 2D and 3D graphics;
and, accelerated video capture for video editing, Internet
video conferencing, and, general purpose image input.

Other standard features include 2MB of video RAM to
support millions of colors on 17" monitors, built-in
12x-speed CD-ROM drive, a built-in 33.6kps modem for
fast "single-click" connectivity to the Internet and advanced
telephony capabilities such as digital voicemail and
send/receive faxing. Each system also comes with
keyboard, mouse and high-quality software bundles.
Monitors are sold separately.

Configurations, Availability and Estimated U.S. Retail
Pricing

The Power Macintosh 6500 series comes in five
configurations to meet the diverse price-performance and
feature needs of home, small business and education
customers. Additionally, each system comes with an array
of powerful, high-quality applications and CD-ROMs.
[Note: for a detailed list of preinstalled software/CD-ROM
titles on each system, please refer to apple.com.]

The Power Macintosh 6500/300 and Power Macintosh
6500/275 systems are planned to be available in limited
quantities later this spring. The Power Macintosh 6500/225
and 6500/250 models are scheduled to be available
immediately. Pricing, configurations, product availability,
and software bundles vary.

Power Macintosh 6500/300: U.S. $3,000

300MHz/64MB RAM/4GB hard drive/12x-speed CD-ROM
drive/Iomega Zip drive/33.6kps modem/L2-512 cache
Software/CD-ROMs included: Home bundle featuring
personal productivity, learning/reference,
games/entertainment and Internet titles such as Adobe Photo
Deluxe, ClarisWorks 4.0 and Quicken SE by Intuit.

Power Macintosh 6500/275: U.S. $3,000

275MHz/32MB RAM/4GB hard drive/12x-speed CD-ROM
drive/33.6kps modem/L2-512 cache/Avid Cinema/Apple
Video System/Apple TV/FM Radio System
Software/hardware/CD-ROMs included: Creative Studio
bundle featuring everything creative individuals need to
capture, create, edit and publish video, music/audio, 3D
graphics, art, photos and Internet content -- from Adobe
PageMill 2.0 to Microspot 3D World for 3D creation.

Power Macintosh 6500/250: U.S. $2,600

250MHz/48MB RAM/4GB hard drive/12x-speed CD-ROM
drive/Iomega Zip drive/33.6kps modem/L2-256 cache
Software/CD-ROMS included: Small Business bundle
featuring presentation, Internet access, and finance,
productivity and business management titles such as the
newly enhanced Microsoft Office for Macintosh and
Symantec's Norton Utilities.

Power Macintosh 6500/250: U.S. $2,300

250MHz/32MB RAM/4GB hard drive/12x-speed CD-ROM
drive/Iomega Zip drive/33.6kps modem/L2-256 cache
Software/CD-ROMs included: Home software bundle.

Power Macintosh 6500/225: U.S. $2,000

225MHz/32MB RAM/3GB hard drive/12x-speed CD-ROM
drive/33.6kps modem/L2-256 cache Software/CD-ROMs
included: Home software bundle.

All pricing listed represents estimated U.S. retail prices, and
may vary.

Apple Computer, Inc., a recognized innovator in the
information industry and leader in multimedia technologies,
creates powerful solutions based on easy-to-user personal
computers, servers, peripherals, software, information
appliances and Internet technologies. Headquartered in
Cupertino, California, Apple develops, manufactures,
licenses and markets solutions, products, technologies and
services for business, education, home use, entertainment,
scientific and engineering and government customers in
more than 140 countries.

Apple's home page on the World Wide Web is:
http://www.apple.com

Customer Information Contact: If you are considering the
purchase of an Apple product and would like to have
product information faxed to you, call 800-462-4396 in the
U.S. or 800-263-3394 in Canada. If you do not have a fax
machine or would like to locate an Apple authorized reseller
near you, call 800-538-9696. Customers outside the U.S.
should contact their local Apple representatives for
information.

NOTE: Apple, the Apple logo, Macintosh, and Power
Macintosh are registered trademarks of Apple Computer,
Inc. PowerPC and the PowerPC logo are trademarks of
International Business Machines Corporation, used under
license therefrom. All other brand names mentioned are
registered trademarks or trademarks of their respective
holders, and are hereby acknowledged. SOURCE Apple
Computer Inc.
456.150False Claim?RTL::DAHLThu Apr 10 1997 09:536
>Friday April 4 8:30 AM EDT
>Apple Introduces First 300 Megahertz Desktop Computer

Gee, just when did Digital (or its partners) recently introduce the new 400+
MHz 21164PC Alpha-based desktop computers? Before April 4th, yes?
						-- Tom
456.151CSC32::M_HERODOTUSMario at CXO3/B10 ColoradoThu Apr 10 1997 15:119
    
    It's not a false claim, it appears to me to be a newpaper headline.
    Apple didn't make any claim, the newspaper said it. 
    
    The problem I find with it is that the media does not even consider
    Digital a player in the market. They should be made aware of our
    presence in the desktop market.
    
    Mario
456.152NPSS::NEWTONThomas NewtonThu Apr 10 1997 20:4320
>   "The introduction of the first 300 megahertz personal computers ... "
                                                 --------

This is a key phrase.  Digital just isn't interested in home computer users or
the small business crowd, as it has shown time and time again.  Apple is; they
have a much stronger claim to the term "personal computer".

As part of the 21164PC rollout, a Digital spokesperson was quoted as saying we
would be thrilled if Alpha got 10% of the market for Windows NT.

Thrilled with only 10% of the Windows NT market?  When the NT market itself is
only a tiny niche within the Windows market?  Where does that put the Alpha-NT
goal, at less than 1% of the personal computer market?

With that goal, we should count ourselves lucky to get any press coverage!

Also keep in mind that Apple announced a real machine, complete with the model
number and specifications.  All we announced was a chip that would let someone
(not necessarily us) make a sub-$2,700 machine.  There is a big difference.
456.153RTL::DAHLFri Apr 11 1997 10:0921
RE: <<< Note 456.152 by NPSS::NEWTON "Thomas Newton" >>>

>>   "The introduction of the first 300 megahertz personal computers ... "
>                                                 --------
>
>This is a key phrase.  Digital just isn't interested in home computer users or
>the small business crowd, as it has shown time and time again.  Apple is; they
>have a much stronger claim to the term "personal computer".

I agree. Note, however, that (high end) personal computers are used by big
businesses and institutions too. To me, "personal" implies dedicated to one
person; the needs or resources of that person are another matter.

>Also keep in mind that Apple announced a real machine, complete with the model
>number and specifications.  All we announced was a chip that would let someone
>(not necessarily us) make a sub-$2,700 machine.  There is a big difference.

I guess I don't know what whole systems Digital has announced, if any; what is
the state of the German PC company that is building Alpha PCs -- how far along
are their systems?
						-- Tom
456.154Still a bit of VApor16875::MOFFITTFri Apr 11 1997 13:5715
re .-1

>Also keep in mind that Apple announced a real machine, complete with the model
>number and specifications.  All we announced was a chip that would let someone
>(not necessarily us) make a sub-$2,700 machine.  There is a big difference.

Well Apple might have announced the system and given part numbers, prices and 
performance but the 300 MHz model won't be shipping for a while yet.

As far as a complete Alpha system available today in this price range, check
out Enorex where you can pick up a 366 MHz system complete with monitor for
$2999 today. This system is based on today's 21164, not the 21164PC 
microprocessor and it's shipping now. 

tim m.