| Title: | POLYCENTER Console Manager |
| Notice: | Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS: |
| Moderator: | CSC32::BUTTERWORTH |
| Created: | Thu Aug 06 1992 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 1541 |
| Total number of notes: | 6564 |
[This note is posted in the SABLE, WINDOWS-NT and CONSOLEMANAGER notes
files]
Hi
Is it possible to use POLYCENTER Console Manager to manage an
AlphaServer 2100 console when the ARC console is running? I want the
consoles of all of our servers to be available through PCM, the better
to finger in boot, update, etc. commands from afar. This is no problem
with SRM. But when I tried this with ARC, I saw this:
P00>>>ARC
11:55:33 loading ARC firmware
11:56:10 2J
11:56:10 Initializing firmware.
11:56:10
11:56:10 Processor 0 Ready
11:56:10 Processor 1 Ready
11:56:11
11:56:11 Initializing EISA bus 0.
11:56:11
11:56:11 Initializing device drivers: NCRC810 SWXCR QLISP1020 ...OK.
11:56:33 2J 34m 47m
4;5HIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM; 5;5H:
WARNING: The firmware has found that s
11:56:43 Copyright (c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation
11:56:43 Boot menu:
11:56:43 12;0H Use the arrow keys to select, then press Enter.
11:56:43 7;5H 0m 1m 7mNo boot selections, press any key to continue 0m
1m 8;5H
11:58:16 Copyright (c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation
11:58:16 Copyright (c) 1993-1995 Digital Equipment Corporation
11:58:16
11:58:16 Boot menu:
11:58:16 12;0H Use the arrow keys to select, then press Enter.
11:58:16 7;5H 0m 1m 7mNo boot selections, press any key to continue 0m
1m 8;5H
11:58:26 Copyright (c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation
11:58:26 Copyright (c) 1993-1995 Digital Equipment Corporation
11:58:26
11:58:26 Boot menu:
11:58:26 12;0H Use the arrow keys to select, then press Enter.
11:58:26 7;5HNo boot selections, press any key to continue 8;5H 0m 1m
7mBoot a
I couldn't figure out how to do anything useful, so I power-cycled the
2100 and got the SRM console back when it booted (whew!).
It looks ARC is throwing out escape sequences to do screen positioning
of the various lines. Are these terminal sequences understood by any
VT terminals? If so, shouldn't I be able to use PCM to control the
console until Windows NT boots?
Thanks!
tl
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| 1421.1 | CSC32::BUTTERWORTH | Gun Control is a steady hand. | Thu Nov 14 1996 11:38 | 12 | |
tl,
Unfortunately what you want to do is not possible to the best of my
knowledge. My understanding is that you can set the console to the
serial line when using the ARC. The other issue is even if we could do
this we still can't fully manage the NT box since it doesn't have the
same concept of a console that "we" have. It's going to take a lot of
work to make this happen too. Personally I doubt we'll ever see a
serial line console on an NT box unless it's a server (such as a
TurboLaser) designed with one.
Regards,
Dan
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| 1421.2 | I'm easier to please than you think! | CRONIC::LEMONS | And we thank you for your support. | Fri Nov 15 1996 13:48 | 28 |
Dan
Thanks for the feedback. Actually, what I think I want may not be all
that hard.
Let's talk just about the Alpha systems for a minute. If SRM is
running, then a PCM connection gives you two things:
o console control before operating system loads
o operating system access after the operating system loads
If ARC is running, then a PCM connection gives you one thing:
o console control before the operating system loads
So far, so good?
I want to control the ARC console until the operating system loads.
Given that it looks like a character cell menu, it doesn't seem like a
long jump to get this to work. What I don't want, or expect, is to
access the operating system, once running, through the serial port. I
know that is completely against the design of the Windows operating
system.
Given this, what do you think?
Thanks!
tl
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| 1421.3 | CRONIC::LEMONS | And we thank you for your support. | Fri Nov 15 1996 14:00 | 13 | |
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Note 2439.1 Using PCM to control AS2100 running ARC/Windows NT 1 of 1
KOKY::PEREZ 6 lines 14-NOV-1996 16:17
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I believe your problem is related to the terminal emulation mode that
you are running. If we want to use the serial port (terminal emulator)
torun the ARC console to run ECU and RCU we set the terminal as a
VT320, or VT420 with eight bit, no parity and XOFF at 128
Ozzie Perez
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| 1421.4 | CRONIC::LEMONS | And we thank you for your support. | Fri Nov 15 1996 14:02 | 10 | |
<<< DECWET::DOCD$:[NOTES$LIBRARY]WINDOWS-NT.NOTE;1 >>>
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Note 5350.1 Using PCM to control AS2100 running ARC/Windows NT 1 of 1
CLOUD::SHIRRON "Stephen F. Shirron, 223-3198" 4 lines 14-NOV-1996 11:44
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You need to make sure that your console line is set to 8-bit. That did it for
me.
stephen
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