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| 1231.1 | | CSC32::BUTTERWORTH | Gun Control is a steady hand. | Tue Mar 12 1996 11:49 | 10 |
| >Gets corrupted now and then. It could be the typeahead buffer isn't
big enough and enough characters are coming down the pipe before
flow control has a chance to kick in.
What are the settings of TTY_ALTYPAHD and TTY_ALTALARM on the PCM
engine? Set them to 2000 and 640 respectively and then reboot the
PCM engine as these aren't dynamic parameters.
Regs,
Dan
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| 1231.2 | Problem still there. | 54735::WIJKAMP | One day, you won't drink beer, you'll drink GROLSCH | Thu Mar 14 1996 10:09 | 16 |
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Hello,
They changed the parameters to the advised values. I'm sorry, but it
made no difference at all.
When you go into the menu, and return to a previous one, the line items
move one position.
Any other idea's??
Thanks again.
Ren�.
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| 1231.3 | | CSC32::BUTTERWORTH | Gun Control is a steady hand. | Thu Mar 14 1996 18:59 | 1 |
| Do these systems send 8-bit ascii control sequences?
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| 1231.4 | More info/questions | UTURBO::WIJKAMP | One day, you won't drink beer, you'll drink GROLSCH | Thu Apr 18 1996 11:21 | 114 |
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Hello,
I have a follow up on this problem.
The following is the case:
This application is giving a menu. When you step through the
menu with the down arrow key, You see that the next menu
item is inversed (intended) but is also written at the
beginning of the line, and not at position 4.
When you go down again, the inverse is turned off, and the
next item is moved at the beginning, and highlichted.
When you use telnet to connect to this HP-system, the menu
items stay on the correct position, starting at position 4.
It seems that somehow PCM inserts a CR and/or LF when
rewriting the line, thus starting at the beginning of the
line.
The application does all kind of cursor positioning things
like <ESC>[34D (move cursor back 34 positions ect.)
The important questions at this moment are.
- DOES PCM support this kind of cursor movements????
- What does pcm use/add as a record terminator (CR/LF)
if it does, can this be changed?
(telnet seems to add only a LF as a terminator, thus
positioning the cursor one line below, on position 4.)
I have a logfile from the telnet session.
Retrievable from UTRTSC""::pcm-menu.log When you do a type of
this file you can see the undesired effect. (LOGfile also
added at the end, but with the <ESC> as text, and not
as ascii-27.)
I would be very pleased with an answer to my two questions:
Thanks in advance
Ren�. \
LOGfile.
<ESC>[4l<ESC>[20l<ESC>[12h<ESC>[16h<ESC>[?7l<ESC>[?42l<ESC>=<ESC>[?6l<ESC>[?25h<ESC>[?10l<ESC>(B<ESC>)0<ESC>[H<ESC>[999B<ESC>[999C
<ESC>[6n <ESC>[6n<ESC>[<ESC>[H<ESC>[J<ESC>[?25h<ESC>[0m^Nl<ESC>[0;7m^O <ESC>[0;1;7m===<ESC>[0;7m <ESC>[0;1;7m System Administrati
on Manager (sddp02) (1) <ESC>[0;7m <ESC>[0m^Nk<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nlqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqk^O <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O <ESC>[0;1;7mPrinters and Plotters-> <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0;1;7m^<ESC>[0;1m [[ <ESC>[0;1;4mO
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<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Peripheral Devices-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
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<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Routine Tasks-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Process Management-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Kernel Configuration-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Cluster Configuration <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Networking/Communications-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Remote Administration <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Auditing and Security-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O Other Utilities-> <ESC>[0;1;7m <ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nx^O <ESC>[0;1;7mv<ESC>[0;1m <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O ^Nmqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqj^O <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O Press CTRL-K any time for KEYBOARD HELP <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O <ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1m^O
<ESC>[0m^Nx<ESC>[0;1mqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq<ESC>[0mx<ESC>[0;1m^O
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<ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mDisks and File Systems-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mDisks and File Systems-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mPeripheral Devices-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mPeripheral Devices-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mBackup and Recovery-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mBackup and Recovery-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mUsers and Groups-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mUsers and Groups-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mRoutine Tasks-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mRoutine Tasks-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mProcess Management-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mProcess Management-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mKernel Configuration-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mKernel Configuration-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mCluster Configuration <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mCluster Configuration <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mNetworking/Communications-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mNetworking/Communications-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mRemote Administration <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mRemote Administration <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mAuditing and Security-> <ESC>[34D<ESC>[0;1mAuditing and Security-> <ESC>[34D
<ESC>[0;1;7mOther Utilities->
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| 1231.5 | | CSC32::BUTTERWORTH | Gun Control is a steady hand. | Thu Apr 18 1996 21:02 | 42 |
| > This application is giving a menu. When you step through the
> menu with the down arrow key, You see that the next menu
> item is inversed (intended) but is also written at the
> beginning of the line, and not at position 4.
> When you go down again, the inverse is turned off, and the
> next item is moved at the beginning, and highlichted.
> When you use telnet to connect to this HP-system, the menu
> items stay on the correct position, starting at position 4.
> It seems that somehow PCM inserts a CR and/or LF when
> rewriting the line, thus starting at the beginning of the
> line.
PCM *does not* insert characters into the data stream. Does the HP
system send 8-bit ascii sequences to perform some of these operations?
I aksed that question in -2 and it wasn't answered? What kind of
terminal does the HP think is attached to it's console? A VT100 or
what?
>The application does all kind of cursor positioning things
>like <ESC>[34D (move cursor back 34 positions ect.)
>The important questions at this moment are.
>- DOES PCM support this kind of cursor movements????
Yes. The LPS$CONSOLE application uses nothing but direct cursor
positioning sequences and it works fine. The LPS$CONSOLE is what one
uses to connect to a PRINTSERVER to access it's virtual console.
As long as the HP is sending valid VTxxx escape sequences it should
work.
>- What does pcm use/add as a record terminator (CR/LF)
> if it does, can this be changed?
DO you mean for the CONNECT interface or what? When using connect, the
data stream is passed directly to the users terminal. The only issue is
if the HP sends 8-bit seqences and your using LAT or local TXA ports.
Regs,Dan
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| 1231.6 | The more you know, the more questions you get. | UTRTSC::WIJKAMP | One day, you won't drink beer, you'll drink GROLSCH | Fri Apr 19 1996 11:41 | 46 |
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Hello Dan,
Sorry, I did not answer your previous question.
Yes, the HP states that it sends 8-bit sequences. (I have some doubt,
that is why I asked for this logfile.) It is in VT100 emulation mode.
>- What does pcm use/add as a record terminator (CR/LF)
> if it does, can this be changed?
Type adds a cr/lf at the end of every record, that is why you see the
behaviour when you type the logfile. (Notice there is NO CR and/or LF
at the end of the records.)
I thought maybe PCM reads a record, and that writes it to the decterm +
CR/LF.
This is via the connect interface of PCM.
It is a Weird problem. Every way we connect to this system via this
decserver-port (telnet/lat) gives correct results. When we do it via
PCM Connect we see the menu items move to the beginning. (Why???????)
Personaly I think this is a cosmetic problem (Does not look nice), but
everything works. BUT the customer is making a lot of problems about
it.
20+ hp-systems.
So a (any) explenation would be very welcome.
I think I am going to make a network trace to findout if there is not a
weird 7 1/2-bit sequence somewhere send.
Any further help would be very welcome.
Greetings,
Ren�.
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| 1231.7 | | CSC32::BUTTERWORTH | Gun Control is a steady hand. | Fri Apr 19 1996 14:55 | 47 |
| > Yes, the HP states that it sends 8-bit sequences. (I have some doubt,
> that is why I asked for this logfile.) It is in VT100 emulation mode.
>- What does pcm use/add as a record terminator (CR/LF)
> if it does, can this be changed?
> Type adds a cr/lf at the end of every record, that is why you see the
> behaviour when you type the logfile. (Notice there is NO CR and/or LF
> at the end of the records.)
Thats actually RMS doing that and it only occurs if you have the
carriage_return record attribute.
>I thought maybe PCM reads a record, and that writes it to the decterm +
>CR/LF.
> It is a Weird problem. Every way we connect to this system via this
> decserver-port (telnet/lat) gives correct results. When we do it via
> PCM Connect we see the menu items move to the beginning. (Why???????)
Looking at the esc sequences, the second iteration of the string
doesn't position the cursor in column 4. It assumes that the once the LF
has been processed the cursor is in the correct position. If a CR is
sent (which it must be) then it screws up the spacing. In my opinion
the menu code should send the sequence to place the cursor where they
want it and not assume that a LF char will take care of it. That would
make the code much more generic and your problem would not exist.
If they do send an 8-bit seqnece and you use LAT or Direct as the
transport we'll have a problem as PCM sets the line fir 7-bit controls
which means 8 bit sequnces won't get handled.
Regs,
Dan
Any further help would be very welcome.
Greetings,
Ren�.
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