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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

1151.0. "More questions about PCM!!" by 36125::GLICKMAN (writing from Newport,RI) Thu Jan 11 1996 17:16

    PCM is still not running at this customer site.  We seem to be getting
    closer!
    
    More questions:
    
    	(1) Can a Hughes Data Systems (HDS) X Windows terminal be used?
    
    	(2) How are reboots of the managed machines done from PCM?
    	    Can they be done remotely?
            Can the entire VAXcluster be rebooted by a single command?
    
    	(3) Again, the customer is concerned about reliability of the
            system.  What happens if the system that the PCM is on becomes
            unavailable (they don't like a single point of failure)?
    	    What happens if one managed node connection breaks?
            Do you keep the old consoles available for a backup?
                                                                  
    	(4) The PCM User's Guide describes to do with VAX 8500/8700/8800
            and 8830/8840.  No mention of 8820 -- which is what they
            have.  Does the discussion for the 8830/8840 apply?
    
    	Appreciating your answers! 
    	  
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1151.129067::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Fri Jan 12 1996 14:0749
>    PCM is still not running at this customer site.  We seem to be getting
>    closer!
    
>    More questions:
    
>    	(1) Can a Hughes Data Systems (HDS) X Windows terminal be used?
    
    To my knowledge we have never tested the any of the X-windows
    interfaces or action routines with this kind of terminal. If it's
    a reasonably good x-server implementation then it should work fine. You
    really want to have a 3button mouse though.
    
>    	(2) How are reboots of the managed machines done from PCM?
    
    Typically using the connect interface.
    
>    	    Can they be done remotely?
    
    Thats one of the goals of the product. You can do anything from PCM
    that you could if the console was a VTxxx video-terminal.
    
>            Can the entire VAXcluster be rebooted by a single command?
    
    You would have to use the DIALOG interface to accomplish a cluster
    reboot. There is no "automagic" command to reboot an entire cluster.
    
>    	(3) Again, the customer is concerned about reliability of the
>            system.  What happens if the system that the PCM is on becomes
>            unavailable (they don't like a single point of failure)?
    
    I would inform them that as long as there is only one console there is
    *ALWAYS* a single point of failure.
    
>    	    What happens if one managed node connection breaks?
>            Do you keep the old consoles available for a backup?
    
    You can always keep a VTxxx on a roll-around cart to accomodate this
    situation.
                                                                  
>    	(4) The PCM User's Guide describes to do with VAX 8500/8700/8800
>            and 8830/8840.  No mention of 8820 -- which is what they
>            have.  Does the discussion for the 8830/8840 apply?
    
    What kind of 8820? If it's an 8820N then it is the same thing as an
    8800. If it's an 8820P then the 8830/8840 discussion applies. Look
    at the console and it's a Pro-console the it's an 8800.
    
    Regards,
       Dan
1151.2Still more questions...36125::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RIWed Jan 24 1996 14:2811
    Hi,
    
    	Customer is still asking this question:  if the computer the
    PCM is running on hangs what happens to the VAXcluster?  Occassionally
    we have found that if a console hangs there a potential that the
    computer it is connected to may crash (due to a problem of the 
    OPCOM messages overflowing the buffer).  Now the customer is concerned
    he will have to worry about all the nodes in his VAXcluster having
    this problem at the same time.  Can someone comment on his concern?
    
    Thanks.
1151.3CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Thu Jan 25 1996 12:3825
    >Hi,
    
    >Customer is still asking this question:  if the computer the
    >PCM is running on hangs what happens to the VAXcluster? 
    >Occassionally we have found that if a console hangs there a potential 
    >that the computer it is connected to may crash (due to a problem of the
    >OPCOM messages overflowing the buffer).  Now the customer is concerned
    >he will have to worry about all the nodes in his VAXcluster having
    >this problem at the same time.  Can someone comment on his concern?
    
    It's not that big of a concern. Over the years OPCOM has had
    many internal changes to prevent this from happening. There is no
    longer "a buffer" that can be overflowed. Messages are kept in a
    linked list. It would take a long time for OPCOM to exhaust non-page
    dynamic storage pool on most systems. Surely if you had a node with
    a small memory config that disallows having a decently size non-paged
    storage pool it would happen sooner. Finally, it has been such a long
    time that I have ever had this occur ( many years) that I don't
    consider it an issue. To put it another way, a paper jam on a local
    hardcopy console is much more likely to happen.
    
    Regards,
       Dan
    
        Thanks.