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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

1049.0. "Clustering PCM Stations" by 58633::FERRO (Rick Ferro) Wed Oct 18 1995 11:33

    Hello,
    
    My customer has three computer sites and each one has two VAXstations
    running VCS 1.4. We are planning a migration to PCM 1.6 and have
    already determined that we will have to run PCM on the Alpha platform.
    
    We are hoping to use AlphaStations 3000-900 and the question of
    clustering the two stations at each site has come up. Unfortunately
    SCSI clusters are not supported on the 3000-900. So the only option
    left is to use them in a LAVC type arrangement.
    
    Will all of the event files be common to the two nodes or do they need
    to be different. We have not tsted this configuration yet and are
    trying not to re-invent the wheel. The only warning on the SPD
    regarding this is that two nodes would not be able to update the
    configuration file at the same time which, is fine with us as this is
    done centrally anyway for the operators.
    
    Anything else we should consider ?
    
    Regards
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1049.1ex29067::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed Oct 18 1995 13:4233
>    We are hoping to use AlphaStations 3000-900 and the question of
>    clustering the two stations at each site has come up. Unfortunately
>    SCSI clusters are not supported on the 3000-900. So the only option
>    left is to use them in a LAVC type arrangement.
    
>    Will all of the event files be common to the two nodes or do they need
>    to be different. 
    
    Will the systems be monitoring two different sets of nodes or is one
    to function as the hot backup to the other? 
    
    If the latter, there is an inherint problem in that there is not a
    shared disk that each node has a physical path. This means that each
    node is serving it's disks to the other. If you install the software
    on only one disk then and if the node that serves that disk is down the
    other node has no access to. Volume shadowing could solve that problem
    but introduces another. If all your logfiles are on shadowed disks where 
    at least one member is located on each system and one node is shut down
    followed by the other node at some later time you must reboot that last
    node you shutdown first! This is because he was up longer and the
    logfiles on it' shadow-set member are more current. if you rebooted the
    first node you shutdown first, the second nodes member that has more
    current files would be overwritten via a shadow copy!!
    
>    Anything else we should consider ?
    
    Without further knowledge as to what your goals are I can only offer
    the above. So if can provide some input on your project goals we can
    help you a lot more.
    
    Regards,
       Dan
    
1049.2More info for our PCM Cluster58633::FERRORick FerroMon Oct 23 1995 09:2122
    Hello Dan,
    
    Thanx for the quick reply. Based on your input we ae now considering
    using AlphaStations 400 and establishing SCSI Clusters to get over the
    disadvantages of not being able to share disks connected via a direct
    physical path.
    
    This brings me to the question of commonality of files. In your
    question wheteher one system would be a hot backup for the other ? The
    answer is yes. Both stations at each site are presently monitoring the
    same systems on a primary/backup arrangement.
    
    Because we are running gaming software that is fairly critical we
    cannot afford not to have a console at any time. Connecting a terminal
    to the console port of the systems in question, should the VCS station
    fail, is not a tenable proposition, ergo the need for redundancy.
    
    With the above in mind can you suggest anything else we should consider
    ? Will the arrangement provide us with the resilience we need ? What
    will happen to the event files when the primary node goes down ?
    
    Regards 
1049.329067::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Mon Oct 23 1995 17:0128
>    With the above in mind can you suggest anything else we should consider
>    ? 
    
    If you intend to use a quorum disk, bear in mind that a shadow-set
    may not act as a quorum disk.
    
    
    >Will the arrangement provide us with the resilience we need ?
    
    It certainly should. You may want to consider tweeking SYSGEN param
    RECNXINTERVAL to keep your cluster state transitions down.
    
    > What will happen to the event files when the primary node goes down ?
    
    If the logfiles are on a common disk then the secondary member will 
    open the same logfiles as the secondary used.
    

    This brings to mind one other issue and that is time syncronization. 
    It's not absolutely critical but the closer the clocks are on the 
    PCM engines, the better off you are. Imagine a secondary PCM engine with
    a one hour time difference from the primary. The primary goes down
    and the secondary takes over. Soon after some problem occurs on one of
    the monitored systems and you try to use EXTRACT interface. You could
    hunt all over and not find what you want quickly.
    
    Regs,
      Dan