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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

870.0. "Monitord systems direct connect to the PCM station" by HGOVC::EDMONDLEUNG () Mon Jul 17 1995 18:51

    Hi,
    
    One of our customers wants to check whether it is possible to setup the
    PCM under the following condition:
    
    There will have around 15 systems to be monitord using a single PCM
    workstation. The PCM workstation can be a VAX or an Alpha wkstation
    running OVMS.
    In general, there should be no problem to monitor such number of
    systems by connecting all the console ports to the terminal servers.
    However, now the customer wants to monitor six critical systems by
    directly connecting them onto the PCM workstation (assume there is a
    adaptor which can provide six serial ports installed on the PCM
    workstation) because they are afraid the failure of the network and the
    terminal servers. Will this configuration work for PCM provided there
    is a six serial ports adapter? Do we really offer such an extended 
    serial port adapter card on VAX or Alpha wkstation?
    
    Thanks for any suggestions.
    Edmond   
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870.1CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Mon Jul 17 1995 23:3219
    Theres no problem doing what you want. The only issue might be
    availability of an async terminal line board for the system that
    your customer chooses. I was looking in the SOC for such an option for the
    VAXSTation 400 model 96 and I don't find one.  The Microvax 3100's list
    the DHW42 8 line async board but this doesn't appear to be an option
    for the 4000-96. The SOC i have is only a supplement though. 
    
    I would also suggest an alternative. Consider putting the PCM engine
    and the terminal servers it uses on their own separate LAN segment and
    bridge that segment to the rest of the customers network. Properly
    setup this kind of environment would be just as reliable as using local
    async lines. Remember that there will always be a single point of
    failure using terminal servers or async lines. Creating an isolated 
    LAN segment is your best bet in my opinion as you can use any kind of
    system that you want and properly setup you LAT connections will be 
    immune to any LAN failures outside the isolated segment.
    
    Regards,
       Dan
870.2It's better. Any more suggestions?HGOVC::EDMONDLEUNGWed Jul 19 1995 17:3316
    Dan,
    
    Thanks for your input. As you mentioned the most difficulty is to
    source the async card which can be used on the VAXstation or
    AlphaStation. Besides Digital products, do you know where I can find
    some of this adaptor card from third party (with the correct drivers on
    VAX and Alpha)? 
    
    For you suggested alternative, do you mean I've to put the most six
    critical systems connected to the terminal servers which are on a separate 
    network segment with the PCM engine so that this configuration can be 
    more protective from the other segments? However, we still encounter
    the single point of failure situation. Any more suggestions?
    
    Rgds,
    Edmond
870.3CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed Jul 19 1995 22:4436
>    Thanks for your input. As you mentioned the most difficulty is to
>    source the async card which can be used on the VAXstation or
>    AlphaStation. Besides Digital products, do you know where I can find
>    some of this adaptor card from third party (with the correct drivers on
>    VAX and Alpha)? 
    
    No I don't. I would try and find a comprehensive systems and options 
    catalog. Also, have you considered using a server as the engine? You
    could then use any existing Vaxstations/Alphastations the customer has
    for a GUI display. I checked the SOC and I see the CXI01 EISA based
    async MUX. I believe you can get these in 8 line or 16 line versions.
    Like I said I don't have a comprehensive SOC.
    
>    For you suggested alternative, do you mean I've to put the most six
>    critical systems connected to the terminal servers which are on a separate 
>    network segment with the PCM engine so that this configuration can be 
>    more protective from the other segments? 
    
    That would be the minimum. I would recommend that *all* the terminal
    servers that PCM uses be on the isolated segment.
    
    >However, we still encounter the single point of failure situation. 
    >Any more suggestions?
    
    I think you misunderstood what I said in -2. You will *ALWAYS* have a
    single point of failure with any connection method. The async
    board can be just as prone to failure as a terminal server. For that
    matter, a bad terminal cable is a single point of failure, the actual
    console port on the serviced system could fail etc.
    
    I would pursue the isolated segment solution if it was up to me.
    
    Regards,
       Dan