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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

579.0. "Looking for scan profiles" by UTRTSC::ZWINKELS () Wed Jan 25 1995 14:47

    One of the biggest customers in Holland (Dutch PTT) is considering to 
    purchase POLYCENTER Console Manager. They want to manage several
    hardware platforms running different operating systems. In order to
    turn win this order we need to provide them with several scan
    profiles.

    I've been scanning through the CONSOLEMANAGER notesfile, but couldn't
    find what I am looking for. 

    Hardware scan profiles
        VAX Console messages
        AXP Console messages
        HP-9000
        Unisys 6000
    
    Software scan profiles
        OpenVMS VAX/AXP
        HP-UX
        Unix SVR4

    Could anybody please provide with one or more of these ???
    
    Regards,
    Gerard Zwinkels
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579.1CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed Jan 25 1995 20:5611
    Sigh... here we go again....
    
    How can a customer *POSSIBLY* expect us to have scan profiles
    for non-Digital CPU'S and operating systems!! 
    
    As stated in another note in the conference, there is a large port file
    available in OPG::CM$KIT: This port file contains scans for many
    OpenVMS messages and console messages for many VAX cpu's. 
    
    Regs,
      Dan
579.2Not EXPECTING ... just HOPINGUTRTSC::ZWINKELSThu Jan 26 1995 08:0512
    
    I didn't mean to say that the customer is EXPECTING us to deliver scan
    profiles for non-Digital CPU's and operating system. But the scan
    profiles I am looking for, have probably already been created by (many)
    others. So why create them again ???
    
    This notes conference seems to me a good place to exchange things like that.
    So if there is anybody who can help me with these scan profiles, then
    this would save a lot of time.
    
    Regards,
    Gerard Zwinkels
579.3How about AXP Hardware ?IJSAPL::PEURSUMSystems Specialist, EIS HollandThu Jan 26 1995 08:0912
    
    Dan,
    
    A customer could at least expect digital to deliver some scanfiles for
    AXP Hardware... and for DEC-OSF/1 ! We don't do that...
    
    I think this is bad service to customers. As for non-digital equipment:
    you are right. But the overall customer perception after installing PCM
    and not finding any scanfile is *not so good*...
    
    Regards,
    Paul.
579.4CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Thu Jan 26 1995 20:4140
    RE. all
    
    First of all, I agree that a system should be in place to accomodate 
    the rapid creation and dissemination of "scan" data. Having said that,
    this issue has been around since day 1 of VCS - over 7 years ago which
    says a lot in and of itself. Numerous ideas have been proposed to resolve 
    this issue yet none implemented. The most recent proposal, and the one
    that makes the most sense, is to make it a requirement of all
    engineering projects such that any device that has a console or any 
    software that sends messages to a console that a file will be generated
    that contains message data in some standard format. This file will be
    run through a program that will create a port file ready for import by
    the PCM editor. This proposal was met with less than enthusiastic
    response. There are also many other issues including:
    
    Who will be responsible for maintaining everything.?
    Who will fund it? 
    
    Guess what???!!!  Everybody complains that there are no scan profiles
    and the moment you ask the funding question things get reeeaaaallll
    quiet!!
    
    Noone wants this issue resolved more than I do. I would love to see
    funding made available and the necessary manpower allocated to
    perform this work!!! 
    
    The best thing that everyone can do is send mail to the PCM product
    management as they need all the ammunition they can get to use in
    convincing the powers that be that this issue is strategically
    important.
    
    Re -2.
    >Not EXPECTING....HOPING....
    
    Sorry if I sounded harsh but they way the base note was worded it
    sounded like the customer wasn't going to buy the product if we didn't
    have scan data for non-digital hardware/software.
    
    Regs,
       Dan