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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

524.0. "MUP Kit" by OPG::PHILIP (And through the square window...) Mon Dec 19 1994 13:49


  In case nobody saw it as we had to withdraw the kit temporarily to fix a
  problem, the MUP kit is now available, see note 2.last for details.

Cheers,
Phil
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524.1Base kit first?ZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateMon Dec 19 1994 14:266
    Phil,
    
       If installing from scratch, is it necessary to install the base kit
    first?
    
    Dave
524.2YesOPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Mon Dec 19 1994 14:411
524.3Customer ShipCSC32::C_TOWNSENDMon Dec 19 1994 19:129
Hello again,

How are customers going to get the MUP and when?

	1. Shipping to installed PCM customer base and when?
	2. Will it be on the Consolidated Distribution ... when?

Thanks for the info,
Connie
524.4OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Mon Dec 19 1994 19:3513
Connie,

  The usual answers...

  1) Whenever SSB can ship them out. Or the CSC gets notified of
     them being in TIMA via our CSERL submission.

  2) Yes, next time CONDIS ships to customers, in the meantime,
     the MUP may be given out via yourselves in the CSC once it
     has reached you.

Cheers,
Phil
524.5But, but ...CSC32::C_TOWNSENDMon Dec 19 1994 23:2414
Phil -

I really need to have specific information because the CSC is not a MUP
distribution center. SSB does the shipment to the product customer base. 
We make exceptions occasionally but ...

I want to tell my customers the following:
	
	1. The specific Release Date from SSB 
        2. The month the MUP will appear on the Consolidated Distribution
           (Will it make the January Condist?)

Respectfully requested,
Connie
524.6OPG::SIMONTue Dec 20 1994 08:3832
Connie,
       according to Dec Standard 204 ( the process that engineering use for
production and distribution of patches) all fixes whether they be ECO or MUP 
are loaded into TIMA and are then avqilable to the CSCs. The difference wih a
MUP is that it is also loaded into CSERL ( corporate Software library) and is
sent to manufacturing so that it is made available to ALL customers via normal
manufacturing channels i.e. traditional media and CONDIST.

So you will be able to pull the kit from TIMA as if it were any normal patch and
it will be shipped via manufacturing.

As for dates:

People on traditional media will start to see kits arrive early in the new year.
I have sent the pointers and check kits off to manufacturing. As for CONDIST,
well that depends on the platform. 

The date I have for the submissions and releases are below, please note I do not
guarentee the accuracy of these dates as they are what was passed for the
CONDIST folks:
	Platform	Submission Date		Ship Date

	VAX/VMS		 1/13/95		3/17/95
	AXP/VMS		12/30/94		2/24/95
	AXP/OSF		 2/25/95		3/28/95

I don't have the ULTRIX date.,

Cheers Simon...



524.7CSC32::C_TOWNSENDTue Dec 20 1994 17:285
Simon -

Thanks so much.  This is precisely what we needed to know.

Connie
524.8Anon-FTP?CWBNGA::VONEHRENDaniel Von EhrenFri Dec 30 1994 20:042
    Is there anonymous-FTP access to these files?  It would be nice to see
    that, plus a checksum of the file to assure proper copying.
524.9OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Fri Dec 30 1994 21:148
>>    Is there anonymous-FTP access to these files?  It would be nice to see
>>    that, plus a checksum of the file to assure proper copying.

  Nope, but I suppose it could be arranged, I'll see what I can do.

Cheers,
Phil

524.10OPG::SIMONTue Jan 03 1995 12:114
The MUP kit is currently on hold due to a problem. When this issue is resolved I
shall make it available via anon ftp.

Cheers Simon...
524.11Too late, what is the new date?ULYSSE::WEISSBECKWed Jan 04 1995 10:4011
    Too late,
    
    This MUP is already installed on a big client site, and this client is
    not happy at all.
    They discovered the bug with the scan in this MUP, and do not accept
    that we have a so bad testing system.
    
    Do you have a forecast for the new version?
    
    Regards,
    Jean-Marie
524.12OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Wed Jan 04 1995 10:5315
Jean-Marie,

  Did you get the MUP from the CSC or SSB? If not, then I am sorry, but 
  strictly speaking you shouldnt have given the MUP to your customer. Maybe 
  next time you will get it from the correct channels.

  Our testing procedures are fine, they get larger every time we get a bug, 
  its called regression testing, you can tell your customer that this bug will 
  not reoccur because we have modified our testing procedures.

  The new version will appear when its ready, of course, this time you will 
  get the MUP via TIMA from the CSC wont you?

Cheers,
Phil
524.13ULYSSE::WEISSBECKWed Jan 04 1995 13:1811
    Phil,
    
    I didn't give the MUP to the custumer, but somebody from the field did.
    I am sure that this person though that it would help to fix the
    customer problem.
    
    This MUP is now arround for more then two weeks, and it could have been
    sent to CSC or SSB.
    
    Regards,
    Jean-marie
524.14OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Wed Jan 04 1995 13:2412
Jean-Marie,

  The MUP was submitted to CSERL and via DEC Std 204 the day it was made 
  available here, so the delay was not our fault. It does turn out though that 
  the delay was fortunate as we have been able to catch this problem before it 
  gets too serious.

  The MUP has been reannounced and submitted again, so you should be able to 
  solve your customers problem now.

Cheers,
Phil
524.15POLAR::HUTCHMike Hutchings, OMS Eastern Canada, KanataThu Jan 05 1995 12:108
 
 The release notes for the first MUP kit and the second MUP kit are the same.
 Can you tell me what the most recent fixes are? I'm fairly sure you've
 addressed the problem with not generating events. Have you had a chance to
 address the problem with having to stop all console processes before
 reconfiguring/restarting?

 Mike
524.16OPG::SIMONThu Jan 05 1995 12:146
Mike,
     the only fix we put in was the not generating events as this was introduced
by the original kit. We did not spend time on other problems as it was critical
to get the MUP reissued. Other fixes will be dealt with in the normal manner.

Cheers Simon...