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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

519.0. "Displaying Event List on VXT" by COMICS::DAWSONJ (It's......) Wed Dec 14 1994 11:48

 
Hi all,

	  An Engineer recently told me about a problem he was having
	with PCM 1.5 on a VXT 2000, using LAT.

	  By default DECW$DISPLAY is set up, on the VXT, as:

		LAT_08002B13B7FB = _LTA54 , for example....

	 ..which for most purposes works fine, except when he tries to
	fire the Event List window onto the VXT (from his AXP running
	PCM), when it complains with the error:

		%dcl-w-parmdel

	  It would appear that the application is looking at the = _LTA55
	part of the display logical, and can't understand it, whereas all
	other things don't seem to mind about it.  If decw$display is
	redefined then everything works OK.

	  Is this known problem, if so has it been patched yet?  I'd
	appreciate any information.

Thanks in advance,

James.
UK CSC.
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519.1CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed Dec 14 1994 18:2815
    James,
      Is your customer trying to send an Eventlist manually or does he
    have a filter thats trying to do it?
    
    If it's a filter, then the user-data field for the "Multi-Line Window"
    action within the filter should read
    
    LAT_08002B13B7FB 0 0 LAT
    
    i.e., the general format of the userdata field is
    
    nodename server-number screen-number transport
    
    Regs,
      Dan
519.2WELSWS::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Thu Dec 22 1994 11:0917
Dan

I'm the "engineer" referred to in .0. After speaking to James, we decided it 
would probably be less confusing if I replied directly.

The eventlist is being started either manually, or automatically when the C3 
interface is started (this is one of the startup options).

I haven't tried it via a filter, but I would imagine it would work because 
you can specify the node parameter format ie. "LAT_08002B13B7FB". The problem 
only seems to happen when the "=_LTAxxx" is appended to the node parameter.

Cheers

Paul Griffin

LAN Services, MCS
519.3OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Thu Dec 22 1994 11:3310
Paul,

  Can you please install the MUP, I put a fix in for a very similar
  problem to this.

  If you still have the problem after trying the MUP, we can
  investigate further.

Cheers,
Phil
519.4Still a problem....WELSWS::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Thu Feb 02 1995 15:058
The customer has now installed the MUP (ECO1) and they still have the 
problem.

Any suggestions...??

Cheers
Paul
519.5Whoops! - wrong MUPWELSWS::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Thu Feb 02 1995 15:406
I've just realised there is a later MUP - I will get them to install this
as well.

Cheers
Paul
519.6It's changed slightly...!WELSWS::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Thu Apr 13 1995 18:2920
The customer eventually got the MUP installed and it has got rid of this
problem.

However....

Unfortunately another problem has taken it's place. Whereas before PCM was 
complaining about the _LTAxxx suffix for the display node parameter, the message 
now is:-

	Unable to open the requested display (_WSAxx:).

where xx initially is the number of the original display, plus one. This display
doesn't exist. Each time you try to start the eventlist subsequently, this 
number is incremented by one. Removing the _LTAxxx portion of the node 
parameter has no effect. I have managed to reproduce the problem in-house, but 
unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to look at it closely.

Any help would be appreciated

Paul
519.7Any news?42204::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Fri Apr 28 1995 13:0510
Hi

Just wondering if there is an update to the previous note (I've
been looking around the notesfile and found a lat fix mentioned in
598.3, but this was for VAX and the customer has it running on an
AXP).

Regards

Paul
519.8YOSSAM::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Fri Apr 28 1995 13:099
Paul,

  All known/reported problems around displaying to VXT devices have
  been fixed in the V1.6 kit. Please try this kit (watch note 2.last
  for the announcement) and let us know if your customers problem
  persists.

Cheers,
Phil
519.9Original problem back (but not quite)WELSWS::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Tue May 02 1995 17:0017
Phil

Thanks for your reply. I haven't been able to put it on the customers system
yet but I have upgraded our local system.

Unfortunately there is still a problem - it appears to have reverted to the
original problem (in .0) ie. not liking the "=LTAxxxx" value in the display
node name.

There is a slight difference though - the problem only occurs if you try to 
start the eventlist from within the C3 interface (or automatically when C3
starts). If you use the CONSOLE EVENTLIST command directly from DCL it 
works OK??

Cheers

Paul
519.10YOSSAM::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Tue May 02 1995 17:059
Paul,

  As you can start the eventlist OK from DCL, it could be the mechanism
  that the C3 is using to invoke it.

  Dave, are you reading this thread, can you shed some light on this one?

Cheers,
Phil
519.11Console$debug C3ZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateTue May 02 1995 19:2715
    Try turning on debug using the following command:
    
        define CONSOLE$DEBUG C3
    
    Start the C3 and then manually start the event list from the pulldown
    menu. Look in the window that started teh C3 and you'll see that
    command that is used to spawn the event list window. It should look
    similar to:
    
    C3: Spawn command = CONSOLE EVENTLIST/NODE=MADWON/SERVER=0/SCREEN=0/
    TRANSPORT=TCPIP/C3
    
    
    
    Dave
519.12CONSOLE$DEBUG ouptutWELSWS::GRIFFINPEither that wallpaper goes, or I do...Wed May 10 1995 11:4129
I defined CONSOLE$DEBUG as you suggested - this is the output I got:-


C3: Console Event list spawn command:
    C3 create CONSOLE EVENTLIST -
        /NODE=LAT_08002B2B45FD=_LTA5045 -
        /SERVER=0 -
        /SCREEN=0 -
        /TRANSPORT=LAT
        /C3

%DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special characters
C3: Spawn command = CONSOLE EVENTLIST/NODE=LAT_08002B2B45FD=_LTA5045/SERVER=0/SC
REEN=0/TRANSPORT=LAT/C3
 \=_LTA5045\
C3: Spawn command length = 83
C3: Spawn command status = 1
C3: Spawn command pidadr(7f934d08) = 00000261

C3: Event list pid = 00000261


There was more output than this for the C3 startup but this is specific to
the eventlist startup. If you issue that command manually it doen't like it 
either.

Cheers

Paul
519.13ZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateWed May 10 1995 15:5516
    Paul,
    
    Well, this redefining of the node name is definately the problem. I've
    looked at our wsa_get code which decomposes the decw$display and all
    looks to be OK. I'm just curious on how the nodename gets redefined
    from LAT_08002B2B45FD to _LTA5045. Is this something special that is
    being done on at this site? 
    
    I can parse the 'LAT_08002B2B45FD=_LTA5045' string and
    remove the '=' which theoretically should fix the problem.
    
    Can we test this fix in-house or is this problem at a customer's site.
    
    Dave
    
    
519.14CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed May 10 1995 19:4631
    >Paul,
    > Well, this redefining of the node name is definately the problem.
    >I've looked at our wsa_get code which decomposes the decw$display and
    >all looks to be OK. I'm just curious on how the nodename gets redefined
    >from LAT_08002B2B45FD to _LTA5045. Is this something special that
    >is being done on at this site?
    
    Dave, 
       I noticed this name change somewhere around Motif 1.1 or so. They
    started tacking the LTA device name onto the end of the nodename. I
    assume they had some reason for wanting to know the name of the LAT
    port created. This is whats screwingyou up. The other option here is to
    enclose the LAT_08002B2B45FD=_LTA5045 in quotes. I reproduced this a
    while back when we had the original report of this problem. At that
    time the eventlist code didn't have a big enough buffer to hold the
    string LAT_08002B2B45FD=_LTA5045 when it was encased in quotes. Phil
    fixed this by increasing the buffer space but somewhere in there the
    quotes got deleted. I remember them being there when I looked at this
    originally. I think the easisest thing to do is to have the C3 encase
    the nodename string in quotes. Eventlist is coded to handle this.
    
    Regs,
      Dan
    
        I can parse the 'LAT_08002B2B45FD=_LTA5045' string and
        remove the '=' which theoretically should fix the problem.
    
        Can we test this fix in-house or is this problem at a customer's
    site.
    
        Dave
519.15OKZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateWed May 10 1995 20:203
    Thanks Dan. I'll implement your work-around.
    
    Dave
519.16MUP for PCM V1.5?42730::BAKERPMon Jun 12 1995 17:5113
    Hi,
    
    I have just discovered that this is also causing problems at the
    customer site where I am working. Up until now all of our work has been
    done from a workstation. VXTs are now starting to be used.
    
    Is there any chance of a MUP for PCM v1.5, as I would like to fix this
    quickly.  I cannot install field test software on what is essentially a
    live system.
    
    Regards,
    
    Paul Baker (London S.I)
519.17OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Mon Jun 12 1995 17:579
Paul,

  Do you have V1.5 or V1.5a installed? We did some work for VXT problems
  in V1.5a that may fix yours. Failing that, you will have to wait for
  V1.6 as we dont have the resources (people) to work on several releases
  at the same time.

Cheers,
Phil