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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

517.0. ""Event Notification Service not running"" by ELGIN::RASOOLM (The computer in front is an ALPHA) Tue Dec 13 1994 12:04

    
    Why does the "Event Notification Service not running, event update
    disabled" message occur?
    
    Everything is running fine, and then out of nowhere, the messages stop
    appearing on the ENS window, I log on and see the above message.
    
    Any chance of the error messages being divided into Info, Warning and
    Fatal with a view to being able to mail or such like the fatal ones?
    
    Regards,
    
    Max.
    
    
    
    
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517.1ELGIN::RASOOLMThe computer in front is an ALPHATue Dec 13 1994 12:1210
    
    Incidently,
    
    Although I have "exit on shutdown" option enabled on my multiline
    window, whenever I do a "@CONSOLE$STARTUP.COM restart", the window
    stays there and a new one opens up.
    
    
    Max.
    
517.2OPG::SIMONTue Dec 13 1994 13:479
Re .0

	ENS has crashed!!!!

Re .1
        If ENS exits ungracefully as above then it does not deliver a shutdown
event to it's actions, hence they don't exit.

Cheers Simon...
517.3ELGIN::RASOOLMThe computer in front is an ALPHATue Dec 13 1994 14:3521
    
    re .0
    
    Obviously PCM detects ens has crashed and puts up the error message on
    the monitor interface. Is it possible to mail or have an interface that
    can selectively update a SNS screen with an apropriate message. There
    should be various ways of doing this. Both SNS and PCM are POLYCENTRE
    tools, so there should (to my mind) be some ways of interacting between
    tools purportedly sharing the same framework. (which I understand
    POLYCENTRE to be?)
    Apologies in advance if I misunderstand the thinking behind POLYCENTRE.
    
    re .1
    
    This behavior exhibits itself even when ENS is OK. I have just tested
    it.
    
    
    Max.
    
    
517.4ELGIN::RASOOLMThe computer in front is an ALPHATue Dec 13 1994 14:3812
    
    And another thought!
    
    Re .1,
    
    If ENS exits ungracefully, it would be better to let the window drop
    and let you know something is wrong instead of lulling you into a false
    sense of security.
    
    
    Max.
    
517.5ZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateTue Dec 13 1994 15:3113
    Max,
    
        Yes, you can have SNS monitor the different PCM processes.
    
    RE -.1, Not quit sure what you mean by 'letting the window drop'
            If you mean having the event list window disappear, I'm not
            sure if I agree with you, because all previous events would be
            lost. I suppose that at a minimum, it should blast out a line
            stating that the connection to ENS has been lost.
    
    Cheers,
    
       Dave
517.6ELGIN::RASOOLMThe computer in front is an ALPHATue Dec 13 1994 16:1310
    > I suppose that at a minimum, it should blast out a line
    >stating that the connection to ENS has been lost.
    
    That's the best suggestion so far. Or even a big one shot window!
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Max.
    
517.7OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Tue Dec 13 1994 17:0122
Max,

  First of all its POLYCENTER, and NOT POLYCENTRE, this is a trademark and 
  you should use the correct form. As for your thinking behind what 
  POLYCENTER is, yes, the various POLYCENTER tools should integrate, we are
  slowly moving closer to that goal, but it takes time. Please bear with us. 

  Secondly, yes, your action should notice that ENS has died, this is a
  bug in our IPC code. It is not going to get fixed until the next major
  release of PCM as there is too much work to fix this for a patch/mup and 
  too high a risk of breaking other parts of the software which currently
  work. 

  As for the comment about the window "dropping" I assume you mean that it 
  should exit, well, this is an feature you can customize the eventlist to 
  have.

  The eventlist should tell you that it has lost connection, the title 
  bar/icon name changes to reflect the connection state.

Cheers,
Phil
517.8ELGIN::RASOOLMThe computer in front is an ALPHAWed Dec 14 1994 12:065
    
    Thanks for the clarification Phil.
    
    Max.
    
517.9ELGIN::RASOOLMThe computer in front is an ALPHAWed Dec 14 1994 13:0213
    
    Right on cue, as if to explain your comments Phil, ens has fallen over
    and the scroll icon on the C3 window has turned red.
    
    Funny how you (alright I) don't notice the window status bar in normal
    use.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Max.