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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

441.0. "Token-ring terminal server" by MQOSWS::MQOP23::f_monette () Tue Oct 18 1994 19:31

Hello,

Is there any Token-ring Terminal server(DEC or Other) supported with PCM ?

any plans to support any non-DEC terminal server ?

Thanks

Francois
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441.1OPG::SIMONWed Oct 19 1994 10:2328
> Is there any Token-ring Terminal server(DEC or Other) supported with PCM ?

Not sure what a token ring terminal server is, please explain - What protocol
does it use etc.

> any plans to support any non-DEC terminal server ?

The concept of "Supporting" a third party device is not something we do as we 
do not have the facilities to test. However, we know of customers who do use
third party servers ( in fact during FT we put in a couple of fixes to aid
this).
	We have seen Xyplex and Cisco server operate correctly. Others are down
to experiment.

The most likely areas for problems are the TELNET options supported by a server.
To do the line checking we use the TELNET get status option. Some servers do
not support this (Xyplex for example), so we have to disable line checking in
this case.

In the end the customer will attempt to use the most cost effective servers.
We will always try to help, but that sort of support will always be "Best
Efforts".

Cheers Simon....



441.2More infoMQOSWS::MQOP23::f_monetteWed Oct 19 1994 17:0314
I mean a terminal server with a token ring interface on the lan side instead 
of ethernet.

Regarding Non-dec terminal server, Do you know if we have to disable line 
status in the PCM product or on the terminal server itself to fix the problem 
of Get status support ?

Despite the restrictions of telnet get status, Is there any restrictions 
regarding NON-DEC terminal server (token-ring or Ethernet) 6


Thank you very much

Francois
441.3CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed Oct 19 1994 18:1924
    >Despite the restrictions of telnet get status, Is there any
    >restrictions regarding NON-DEC terminal server (token-ring or Ethernet) 6
    
    Francois,
      I have had personal experience with some 3rd-party terminal servers
    that *did not* fully obey the LAT protocol and we had some problems with 
    PCM. Since the 3rd party server was really at fault it is unreasonable for
    PCM engr. to hack the code so it works with that particular server.
    As for token ring let's use FDDI as an example. You could install
    a FDDI adpater in the PCM system and hook that system to a FDDI ring.
    Somewhere else on the ring we have a concentrator or 10/100 bridge
    that allows us access to a DECserver of some kind. Since LAT/TELNET protocol
    is supported across FDDI and the subsequent bridges/concentrators then 
    PCM would have to support this configuration. I don't know
    if we have a server that plugs directly into FDDI but if we do
    have one it would have to be supported too.
    
    The best thing to tell your customers in my opinion is that if the
    server fully supports the necessary protocols then it should work fine.
    If they don't then all bets are off.
    
    Regs,
      Dan
    
441.4AutomaticOPG::SIMONThu Oct 20 1994 09:349
> Regarding Non-dec terminal server, Do you know if we have to disable line 
> status in the PCM product or on the terminal server itself to fix the problem 
> of Get status support ?

You do not disable anything. PCM itself disables it's own line status checking
and all carries on as normal with the exception that line status is not checked
for the particular connection.

Cheers Simon....