Conference csc32::consolemanager

Vinit,

>>(1) When I am trying to define following logicals I had to put the
>>    information in CONSOLE$LOGICALS.COM; instead of 
>>    CONSOLE$PRIVATE_LOGICALS.COM. When I put the information in
>>    CONSOLE$PRIVATE_LOGICALS.COM area it doesn't take in effect.
>>
>>$Defi/Syst/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$LogFiles DISK$DATA:[LOGS]
>>$Defi/Syst/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$Archive  DISK$DATA:[ARCH]

  Do you have the file SYS$STARTUP:CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.TEMPLATE ?
  if so, copy it to .COM and put your changes in there, we changed
  the name of the file during EFT.

>>(2) How can you move system icons. Also, Why different users have different
>>    icons set-up ?

  Do you mean move them around in the C3 display, if so, turn on edit mode
  (Options pulldown), then simply click mouse button 1 on the icon and move it.

  Different users will have different icons because they only get to see the
  icons for the systems they have been given access to in the database, also,
  the actual icon representing a system can be changed by each individual user.

>>(3) I have following command in NETWORK_LAYERED_PRODUCTS.COM; but when ever
>>    you do a quick reload you have to start console manager manually. I also
>>    checked the log for NETWORK_LAYERED_PRODUCTS and everything looked O.K.
>>
>>    @sys$startup:console$startup

  I am not sure what you are saying here, are you saying that you have to execute
  the PCM startup after a reboot, or after stopping then restarting a network
  component?

  If you mean after a reboot, then yes, thats normal for all products, if after
  restarting a network component, then although we have never done this during
  our testing, it is what I would expect as you are taking away some of the basic
  system functionality PCM relies on such as LAT or TCPIP.

  I thought most of this was in the documentation?

Cheers,
Phil

Question (1) - I did copy the file CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.TEMPLATE to
               CONSOLE$PRIVATE_LOGICALS.COM and put the changes in there
               but there are not get define after re-starting console
               manager.

Question (2) - Thanks - I also found more information in documentation.

Question (3) - Lets try this again.

             - I have console startup command in NETWORK_LAYERED_PRODUCTS.COM.
               After quick reload if you try to use connect command it says
               console manager is not running then I have to following to start
               the console manager.

               Why do I have to do following commands each time after system
               reload ?
         
               CONSOLE C3
               COMMANDS
               CONSOLEMANAGER
               STARTUP

Vinit

>>Question (1) - I did copy the file CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.TEMPLATE to
>>               CONSOLE$PRIVATE_LOGICALS.COM and put the changes in there
>>               but there are not get define after re-starting console
>>               manager.

  No, No, No, copy CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.TEMPLATE CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.COM
  notice the change in file type, NOT the change in filename.

>>Question (3) - Lets try this again.
>>
>>             - I have console startup command in NETWORK_LAYERED_PRODUCTS.COM.
>>               After quick reload if you try to use connect command it says
>>               console manager is not running then I have to following to start
>>               the console manager.
>>
>>               Why do I have to do following commands each time after system
>>               reload ?
>>         
>>               CONSOLE C3
>>               COMMANDS
>>               CONSOLEMANAGER
>>               STARTUP

  I'm sorry, I am still not with you, can you explain exactly what the
  NETWORK_LAYERED_PRODUCTS.COM does, and why you think PCM isnt working
  properly.
 
  After a system reload, all you should need to do is a @SYS$MANAGER:CONSOLE$STARTUP
  if your users would like a C3, then they should issue a CONSOLE C3 command, the
  reason we dont do this as part of the startup is that the C3 has to run in the
  context of the user in order to put up the correct map for that particular user,
  you can do this automatically by submitting a job in the users name which has the
  CONSOLE C3 command in it.

Cheers,
Phil

Vinit,

  I have been worrying about your first problem, so, I just did a check in the
  CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.TEMPLATE file, there is actually a bug in it which I
  have now fixed, below is a replacement for this file....

Cheers,
Phil

== Extract from here to SYS$COMMON:[SYS$STARTUP]CONSOLE$PRIVATE_SETUP.TEMPLATE==
$ !
$ !  COPYRIGHT (c) 1994 BY
$ !  DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION, MAYNARD, MASSACHUSETTS.
$ !  ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
$ !  THIS SOFTWARE IS FURNISHED UNDER A LICENSE AND MAY BE USED AND COPIED
$ !  ONLY  IN  ACCORDANCE  OF  THE  TERMS  OF  SUCH  LICENSE  AND WITH THE
$ !  INCLUSION OF THE ABOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICE. THIS SOFTWARE OR  ANY  OTHER
$ !  COPIES THEREOF MAY NOT BE PROVIDED OR OTHERWISE MADE AVAILABLE TO ANY
$ !  OTHER PERSON.  NO TITLE TO AND  OWNERSHIP OF THE  SOFTWARE IS  HEREBY
$ !  TRANSFERRED.
$ !
$ !  THE INFORMATION IN THIS SOFTWARE IS  SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE
$ !  AND  SHOULD  NOT  BE  CONSTRUED  AS A COMMITMENT BY DIGITAL EQUIPMENT
$ !  CORPORATION.
$ !
$ !  DIGITAL ASSUMES NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE USE  OR  RELIABILITY OF ITS
$ !  SOFTWARE ON EQUIPMENT WHICH IS NOT SUPPLIED BY DIGITAL.
!
$ ! This file is provided as a template for the Console Manager system 
$ ! administrator to allow the system default values for the logical
$ ! names for console manager to be redefined.
$ !
$ ! In order to make use of this file copy the template file to 
$ ! SYS$STARTUP:CONSOLE$PRIVATE_LOGICALS.COM. The Console Manager
$ ! startup will call the SYS$STARTUP:CONSOLE$PRIVATE_LOGICALS.COM
$ ! after calling the system default file.
$ !
$ ! Just do a quick check first to make sure that the logical name table 
$ ! exists ( should do if CONSOLE$LOGICALS.COM worked).
$!
$ IF F$TRNLNM("CONSOLE$LOGICAL_NAMES","LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY",,,,"TABLE") .EQS. ""
$ THEN 
$   EXIT
$ ENDIF
$ ! Uncomment and make any changes to the following lines to inserting the
$ ! required directories in the place of "YOUR DIRECTORY" in each case.
$ ! 
$ ! Define/Nolog/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$LogFiles "YOUR DIRECTORY"
$ !
$ ! Define/Nolog/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$Archive  "YOUR DIRECTORY"
$ !
$ ! The next section is for those sites where multiple copies of PCM will
$ ! be run in the same OpenVMS cluster environment.
$ !
$ ! In this case the CONSOLE$TMP and CONSOLE$DATA logical names MUST be unique 
$ ! for each system in the cluster which will run PCM. This is because the 
$ ! CONSOLE$DATA logical defines where the permenant database is located and
$ ! this version of PCM does not support a cluster common database. The 
$ ! CONSOLE$TMP directory contains working files for PCM and is cleared out
$ ! each time the product is started. 
$ ! 
$ ! Define/Nolog/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$DATA "YOUR DIRECTORY"
$ !
$ ! Define/Nolog/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$TMP  "YOUR DIRECTORY"
$ !
$ ! You may add any other logical name changes or additional logical names which
$ ! you require to be defined each time PCM is started in the section below. 
$ ! For Example:
$ !
$ ! Define/Nolog/Table=Console$LOGICAL_NAMES Console$mylogs "YOUR DIRECTORY"
$ !
$ EXIT