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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

249.0. "PCM/MCC...performance???" by VFOVAX::GALVIN (Mic, 214.918.7417) Fri Apr 22 1994 02:10

    	PCM as a POLYCENTER AM using POLYCENTER NETWORK MANAGER 
    
    Hi.  I've got a customer that is currently using VCS.  They are looking
    to do some consolidated WAN management and LAN management.  I've
    proposed using POLYCENTER.  
    
    I want to be able to offer the client the solution of using PCM and MCC
    on the same platform.  My thought is that they open one window and they
    get the PCM map...for lack of a better term; they open another window
    and they get the Iconic Map PM within MCC.
    
    Has anyone done this?  Any thoughts about performance?  On the LAN
    level, they will manage ~25-30 entities, consisting of vitalink
    bridges, VAXcluster members, Risc Servers, etc.
    
    On the WAN side, they are looking at using DECnis Routers managed by
    the MCC Server.  BTW, when will we internally be able to play with PCM
    on an OpenVMS platform?  2 months until official release is too long to
    make these kinds of decisions...  Thanks.
    
    Hi Phil Baxter... is that you???
    
    /Mic
    
    
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249.1YesOPG::SIMONFri Apr 22 1994 09:5636
>    I want to be able to offer the client the solution of using PCM and MCC
>    on the same platform.  My thought is that they open one window and they
>    get the PCM map...for lack of a better term; they open another window
>    and they get the Iconic Map PM within MCC.

Yes we have done that ( it was on Unix at the time, but there is now
no reason for oit not to be possible on OpenVMS)

    
>    Has anyone done this?  Any thoughts about performance?  On the LAN
>    level, they will manage ~25-30 entities, consisting of vitalink
>    bridges, VAXcluster members, Risc Servers, etc.

PCM performance is always difficult to give quantative figures for as it
relies so heaviltily on the amount of console data logged and the amount
of scanning etc.
    
>    On the WAN side, they are looking at using DECnis Routers managed by
>    the MCC Server.  BTW, when will we internally be able to play with PCM
>    on an OpenVMS platform?  2 months until official release is too long to
>    make these kinds of decisions...  Thanks.
   
Kits have been available for the OpenVMS version Field tests for the last
several months ( see note on kits announcements)

Interestingly in the early days of V1.1 when MCC was still the flagship
framework I wrote a bit of code to send events from ENS on PCM to MCC
using datacollectors via the datacollector API. This code plus a few other
bits and bopieces allowed you to have a DECmcc domain with all the consoles
from PCM as Icons and events from PCM would color the Icons and the notification
window from MCC would have the PCM event info. In addition double clicking
on the icon would launch a connect.

Hope this info is of use.

Cheers Simon...
249.2great news...!VFOVAX::GALVINMic, 214.918.7417Sat Apr 23 1994 02:4221
    Simon,
    
    Thank you very much for the prompt and *thorough* reply... 8^).  As for
    your Data Collector code...stay tuned...  Maybe we can make it work on
    MCC V1.3.
    
    The important part that I want to retain, from VCS, is the ability to
    connect to the entities..., ie:  connect to the console of a VAX. 
    Also, I assume that the functionality with the terminal servers is the
    same in PCM?  By this, I guess I mean, there's nothing to prohibit
    being able to load the DECservers from the VAX that serves as the host
    for MCC/PCM???
    
    Also, I read somewhere in this conference that PCM requires VMS V6.0, I
    assume it requires DECnet/OSI as well???  Thanks very much...
    
    /Mic
    
    BTW, is Phil Baxter moderating this conference???  Hi Phil, remember
    me... the Mill in the early '80s...smile.  Time flies, eh?
    
249.3WOTVAX::ELLISMAre you all sitting too comfybold square on your botty? - Then wSun Apr 24 1994 14:1210
    PCM does not require DECnet/OSI as it has no 'client' capability. The
    only thing it uses DECnet for is some of the action routines use DECnet
    as a transport (Window event lists), The C3 is the same for transports.
    It works on Phase IV - That's what I'm on. I guess it has been tested
    on Phase V.
    
    Yes, Phil is the moderator - but he is away at the moment.
    
    Martin