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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

143.0. "OpenVMS VAX PCM V1.1 eft2 problems " by MUNICH::KASER (get stoned - drink wet cement !!!) Tue Dec 07 1993 16:10

    I've installed PCM V1.1 eft2 on my VS4000-90, OpenVMS 6.0,
    and MOTIF v1.1 ( ! )
    
    if i try to edit config-file i get the following error
    
    $ console c3
    ! a c3 window comes up and in the dcl window it says:
    Check and set linerr
    Execute :
    CONSOLE EVENTLIST -
         /NODE=0 -
         /SERVER=0 -
         /SCREEN=0 -
         /TRANSPORT=LOCAL
    C3 Message log file: sys$sysdevice:[kaser]cm_c3_KASER_output.log
    Console Manager - Cannot get shared memory pointer
    Check and set linerr
    Check and set linerr
    Check and set linerr
    Check and set linerr 	! this line is repeated 
    .
    .
    .
    
    What's wrong with my system ?
    Any hints ?
    
    btw.: i think, it's not a good implementation if the console-manager
    	  can only be installed from the system account and any
    	  creation/modification of the config-files.
    	  ( it took me a long time to figure that out - with 'all'		
    	  privileges set for my account !!! - Superuser ? )
    	  INSPECT doesn't allow to have a privileged account (i.e:
    	  SYSTEM ) to be shared by many peoples !
    
    many thanks
    Manfred	
    		
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143.1RTFMOPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Tue Dec 07 1993 18:4260
Hi,

>>    $ console c3
>>    ! a c3 window comes up and in the dcl window it says:
>>    Check and set linerr
>>    Execute :
>>    CONSOLE EVENTLIST -
>>         /NODE=0 -
>>         /SERVER=0 -
>>         /SCREEN=0 -
>>         /TRANSPORT=LOCAL
>>    C3 Message log file: sys$sysdevice:[kaser]cm_c3_KASER_output.log
>>    Console Manager - Cannot get shared memory pointer
>>    Check and set linerr
>>    Check and set linerr
>>    Check and set linerr
>>    Check and set linerr 	! this line is repeated 
>>    .
>>    .
>>    .
>>    
>>    What's wrong with my system ?
>>    Any hints ?


  Nothing is wrong with your system, these are debug messages we accidentally 
left in the code! However, the cannot get shared memory pointer line and the 
repeat of the check and set linerr wouyld indicate to me that you have 
started the C3 awithout having first starting the console controller daemon. 
The repeated check and set message indicates that the C3 is periodically 
trying to connect to the controller daemon.

>>    btw.: i think, it's not a good implementation if the console-manager
>>    	  can only be installed from the system account and any
>>    	  creation/modification of the config-files.
>>    	  ( it took me a long time to figure that out - with 'all'		
>>    	  privileges set for my account !!! - Superuser ? )
>>    	  INSPECT doesn't allow to have a privileged account (i.e:
>>    	  SYSTEM ) to be shared by many peoples !
>>    
>>    many thanks
>>    Manfred	
>>    	

  We have had this feedback before, it is not going to change, the reason we 
do this is because we have our own security mechanism built into the database 
in order to allow or disallow access to consoles, the only way we could 
guarantee that the installation was successful (because the install edits the 
database) without circumventing the security mechanism was to only allow 
installation from the SYSTEM account. We could reverse this and allow anybody 
access to everything, however we felt that it was better for us to make the 
product secure "out of the box".  This is also documented (or should be!) 
there are other considerations to make before and after installation which 
are documented also (especiallu on ULTRIX and OSF) so not reading the 
documentation first could have caused you a lot more problems than you 
already had.

Cheers,
Phil

143.2CSC32::BUTTERWORTHWed Dec 08 1993 21:256
    Re -2.
    
    Bear in mind that you must only INSTALL the product from the
    SYSTEM account. Once you have installed the product you may add as
    many usernames as you wish and grant them the priviledge to modify
    the config database and reconfig the system.