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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

101.0. "Suggestions when using X Window system ..." by KETJE::DIERICK (Have a quasar for breakfast !) Thu Oct 21 1993 14:19


Hi,


I have created a desktop integration with X.Desktop for Console Manager,
Networker and Performance monitor.
Console Manager runs on another AXP OSF/1 workstation.
I use rsh behind an X.Desktop icon to activate console manager on
the server machine with the GUI presented on the desktop machine.
I use console -c3 -display desktop:0

This works OK. Now when I connect to a console of a machine, unfortunately
I don't get the dxterm on my desktop...but on the server.
The reason is that the display variable I pass with "console -c3" doesn't
get passed to the dxterm windows created by the console application.

I had to pass a real ugly rsh command ( anyone who knows the script
language of X.Desktop knows what I mean...) to get things working
correct.

I think this thing needs to get fixed because it violates X Window system
logic : "popup" windows from one application have to go to the same
display...

Cheers,


Dominique Dierick
Open Systems Group Brussels
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101.1OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Thu Oct 21 1993 16:4623
Dominique,

  Console Manager doesnt really support the use of the -display
  argument. Now, having said this, it appears that because we
  are passing the argv, argc values to our XtAppInitialize you
  get your c3 displayed to the correct display, also, as a
  consequence, because we dont do anything with the -display (and
  neither does the X toolkit apparently), any subsequent commands
  go to your default display (as defined by your DISPLAY environment
  variable).

  A workaround for this would be to execute a shell script with your
  rsh command, in the shell script define the DISPLAY environment
  variable then invoke the c3.

  Hope this helps,

Cheers,
Phil

 

  
101.2No problem...KETJE::DIERICKHave a quasar for breakfast !Thu Oct 21 1993 18:1920
>  A workaround for this would be to execute a shell script with your
>  rsh command, in the shell script define the DISPLAY environment
>  variable then invoke the c3.


rsh xxxx -l root "DISPLAY=xxx:0;export DISPLAY; console -c3 " works too,

but most X applications do support the -display variable.

I was only pointing at an inconsistency in Console Manager. Either
-display is supported, and then it needs to work as assumed, or
you just ignore the flag, but then completely.

But I wouldn't consider the problem as a show-stopper ;-)


Dominique


101.3OPG::PHILIPAnd through the square window...Thu Oct 21 1993 18:247
Dominique,

  We will take a look at this if we get time. But if this is your
  only complaint about the product, we must be doing OK ;-)

Cheers,
Phil
101.4Unoffically speaking ...ZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateThu Oct 21 1993 22:0110
    Dominique,
    
        The code has been updated to support the -display option for
    Ultrix. It's unclear at this point as to whether or not this will
    be officially supported. We'd still have to add the functionality to
    VMS, by putting in a command line option. 
    
    Cheers, 
    
    Dave
101.5Thanks !KETJE::DIERICKHave a quasar for breakfast !Fri Oct 22 1993 18:3313
    101.3 :
    
    Up to know it's my only problem...though it has been a struggle
    to get consoles to IBM,SUN and HP ( see the topic Marc Sybertz entered
    about this ;-) )
    
    101.4 :
    
    I was pretty sure it was a VMS command line option issue ;-)
    
    Dominique
    
    
101.6IBM,SUN and HP systems?ZENDIA::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateFri Oct 22 1993 23:1311
    Dominique,
    
        What types of problems are you seeing with getting the displays
    through to the IBM,SUN and HP systems? Is there anything we do to
    help make this work? If you're having problems, others will too.
    The very least we could/should do is to provide some documentation.
    
    Cheers,
    
       Dave
    
101.7Rep -1KETJE::SYBERTZMarc Sybertz@BRO - 856/7572Mon Oct 25 1993 10:0316
>        What types of problems are you seeing with getting the displays
>    through to the IBM,SUN and HP systems? Is there anything we do to
>    help make this work? If you're having problems, others will too.
>    The very least we could/should do is to provide some documentation.

As dominique pointed out, the summarize of the tests we did with IBM, HP and SUN
have been put in this note.

We don't have the machines anymore (we loaned them for a fair) so that we don't
have problems anymore ;-)

By the way, I put in the sun.com news conference the question about redirecting
the SUN console while still using the X display but did not received any answer
until today !

Marc.