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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

46.0. "Some bits & bugs" by KERNEL::CARLETONL (The Software Lifeguard) Wed Dec 09 1992 10:38

Hi everyone ... I just want to start off by saying that this is a great 
product and exactly what i've been asking for for some years now.

There are a couple of nits i've spotted in my first few hours of playing.

- in C3 a lot of the subwindows come up with fixed sizes (eg the Review 
   window), this is a pain if your data is wider than 20 columns

- In terminal mode, using ^E and ^G is fine, except that emacs and tpu 
  make use of these keys, thus rendering the two major editors unusable
  on console manager devices. Simon says we can configure this, but better
  defaults (eg ^7 and ^9) would be useful.

- try doing 
   cm -c system
   ^G
   b			(to start typing the break command)
		The terminal prompt moves to the 4th column, not the 9th
		where it should be.
		(when you get to the 9th column it puts in a tab for you)

- The command line commands are not intuitive (unless you're into hundreds
  of options to set) and there isn't any online help inside cm. Will help
  be in the SSB?

Cheers and keep up the good work 
(i'll be asking fro this conference to be gatewayed to news as soon as I can
 find Dan's mail address)

...Les...
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46.1Some answersVINO::DBIGELOWInnovate, Integrate, EvaporateWed Dec 09 1992 14:4951
Les, 
    Here's some partial answers... There's also an internal QAR database
    which should be referenced in the notesfile here somewhere. (if it's
    not, I'll put the location in). Please feel free to submit QARs. We're
    right in the middle of field test, so your feeedback is VERY important
    for both the success of the product and Digital. 
    
    
- in C3 a lot of the subwindows come up with fixed sizes (eg the Review 
- window), this is a pain if your data is wider than 20 columns

    I'll have to agree here. I thought that the default should at least be
    80 columns. However, you can stretch these out to any size you want and 
    'save' the customization in the pulldown menu. The next time it will
    revert to your last saved settings. 
    
- In terminal mode, using ^E and ^G is fine, except that emacs and tpu 
- make use of these keys, thus rendering the two major editors unusable
- on console manager devices. Simon says we can configure this, but better
- defaults (eg ^7 and ^9) would be useful.

    
    Agreed again. This is also used in VMS quit frequently as the 'EOL'
    or end of line control character. It would be nice to have it
    customizable and ultimately customizable for each system. I would like
    to see it have the same functionality as VCS so that users could
    easiily switch/transfer to CM. It uses control G to return, much like
    control G behaves now. Instead of using control E, I would like to see
    control M be used to go to the Monitor. Control M is also the ANSII 
    equivilent of a carraige return and thus harmless in nature. Does it 
    have any meaning in emacs?
    
- try doing 
-   cm -c system
-   ^G
-    b			(to start typing the break command)
-		The terminal prompt moves to the 4th column, not the 9th
-		where it should be.
-		(when you get to the 9th column it puts in a tab for you)

    Perhaps one of the developers could commnet????
    
- The command line commands are not intuitive (unless you're into hundreds
-  of options to set) and there isn't any online help inside cm. Will help
-  be in the SSB?

    Are you talking about the 'monitor' interface? This has the reverse
    video line across the bottom of the screen and allows you to enter
    commands. If so, I believe we are working on it, although FT2 doesn't 
    have it in just yet.
    
46.2AnswersOPG::SIMONWed Dec 09 1992 16:0437
Les, 
	thanks for the praise. Tell your freinds about it.


> - in C3 a lot of the subwindows come up with fixed sizes (eg the Review 
>   window), this is a pain if your data is wider than 20 columns


Resize the windows and save current settings in the customise pull down
they should then appear in that size/position each subsequent time.



> - In terminal mode, using ^E and ^G is fine, except that emacs and tpu 
>   make use of these keys, thus rendering the two major editors unusable
>  on console manager devices. Simon says we can configure this, but better
>  defaults (eg ^7 and ^9) would be useful.


Unfortunatly the ASCII protocol does not have charecters for ctrl 1-9
Sorry about that.


> - The command line commands are not intuitive (unless you're into hundreds
>  of options to set) and there isn't any online help inside cm. Will help
>  be in the SSB?


I assume you mean the commands in the monitor interface. We hope to put some 
help in there.

There is also a cm man page.


Keep the info coming.

Cheers Simon.....