Conference smurf::buildhelp

2068.0. "Re: ODE problem - documentation/FAQ ?" by AOSG::FILTER (Automatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puck) Mon Jan 29 1996 14:28

Date Of Receipt: 	24-JAN-1996 19:59:24.49
From: 	SMURF::ALPHA::jmf "Joshua M. Friedman OSF/UNIX SDE"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected], odehelp@DEC:.zko.alpha,
	[email protected], [email protected]
Subj: 	Re: ODE problem - documentation/FAQ ?

Jeanne, who are you writing to, me or John?  You sent to John but said
"Josh"; Well I guess it doesn't really matter.

Yes I think an FAQ is a good idea, and there are a few things that
each inadequately fit the bill.  Under our web page,

	http://nsa.zk3.dec.com/rengweb

we have an ode help section, but it certainly doesn't get added to 
frequently enough to really be a FAQ.

DECWET::ODE is a notes conference which never really was much more than
a limited support center, and may not even be open access.

Also, there's a notes conference on smurf:: (?ode?) which sucks up all
the odehelp mail - kind of overwhelming.

The ode documentation (also accessible under our web page, or through
	http://www.zso.dec.com/ode/ODE-Docs.html
	http://www.zk3.dec.com/ode/ODE-Docs.html
	http://www.unx.dec.com/ode/ODE-Docs.html
	http://www.?others?.dec.com/ode/ODE-Docs.html

is hyper-linked, and so may be searchable for keywords and such.

-josh

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To: John Flanagan - UNIX Systems Group <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], [email protected],
        [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: ODE problem. 
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:41:54 -0800
Reply-To: [email protected]


>Hi,

>bco utils.tcl

>appeared to hang.  It never returned the prompt,
>but when I checked my sandbox, the file was there
>and seemed ok.  So, I decided to make my changes
>and try to check it in.

>% bci utils.tcl
>Waiting for sandbox lock (with lockf())

>% bco tetexec.cfg
>Waiting for sandbox lock (with lockf())

>There is a lock file, I guess, somewhere (where?) 
>which is stopping me from working in my sandbox
>completely.

>How can I recover from this problem?

>jeanne


>>There is a .BCSlock file under the "src" directory of your sandbox.
>>You can remove this and try your bco/bci again.


Hi Josh,

It seems to me that odeman should provide a FAQ man page
since we developers and test developers depend so much
on ODE.  If I had dug around through the man pages long 
enough I could have figured this out, but, I would have
read a FAQ on ODE long ago (honestly -), if there was one
and would not have had to bother you.  All in all, it took 
a couple of hours to solve my problem - locate the right 
person to ask, write a message, wait for the reply.  It
seems to me that a lot of people just starting on ODE have
the same questions and some people hesitate to use it
because of horror stories about solving these types of
simple problems.

What do you think?  Do you think it would be a good
idea to have an ODE FAQ?  Does an ODE FAQ already exist
somewhere?  Should I file a QAR against ODE to get a
FAQ?

jeanne