Conference smurf::buildhelp

    To: usg, ag_int
    Cc: buildhelp, odehelp
    Subject: New "buildhelp" & "odehelp" mail aliases 
    Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 15:34:42 +28716
    From: "Joshua M. Friedman, OSF/UNIX SDE 381-1548" <jmf>
    X-Mts: smtp
    
    OSF/1 developers and ODE users,
    
    There is now a new alias in the zk3.dec.com maps for use by OSF/1
    developers:
    
    	buildhelp	(or wasted::buildhelp, [email protected])
    
    This is to help improve the response to people having difficulty with
    build and make issues which are particular to the DEC OSF/1 product,
    but which are really not ODE tools or environment issues. 
    
    We also invite any developers who would be willing to contribute to
    this help-line to be added to buildhelp.  This should serve as a
    "swat"-like function for builds.  Please let me know if you're
    willing...
    
    We still have and encourage the use of the alias for ODE problems:
    
    	odehelp		(or wasted::odehelp, [email protected])
    
    Also, remember to use QAR on GORGE to report bugs in the DEC OSF/1
    product, and use the ODE command "gen-ptt" to report bugs in ODE.
    
    
    >> Please do not send help problems to both help aliases, but use the
    >> one you think is most appropriate; it will be forwarded if
    necessary.
    
    You can list the members of any alias using "/usr/dec/getalias [-r]
    name".
    
    Here is an explanation of the intended use and make-up of these two
    aliases (and two others useful for DEC OSF/1 development help).  Note
    that there is overlap in the membership in these lists.  For example,
    all of the release engineering group, alias reng, is on both
    "buildhelp" and "odehelp."
    
    
    
    buildhelp:
    	Use for problems such as debugging a build, creating or
    	modifying Makefiles, building commands or kernels.
    
    	Contains release stream project & technical leaders, ZK3 release
    	engineering, "swat" representatives, reps from participating	
    	Digital sites, and some interested people 
    
    	Currently includes:
    	    afd cori darrell decwet::peterson helix::krueger jac jmcg  
    	    kenny mento plong reng [email protected] tappan tasar   
    
    odehelp:
    	Use for problems with the ODE and sandbox environment, which
    	don't fit into the other aliases functions; problems with
    	commands such as odemount, mksb, workon, bco, bsubmit; help
    	with shared sandbox administration.
    
    	Contains the ODE development group (DECwest, Seattle), ZK3
    	release engineering, reps from documentation release/admin,
    	reps from participating Digital sites, and some interested people
    
    	We request that users at sites outside ZK3 first consult their
    	local ODE administrators for these sorts of problems if possible.
    
    	Currently includes:
    	    angel decwet::ode demers helix::krueger jmcg kenny nolan
    	    plong reng [email protected]   
    
    reng:
    	ZK3 release engineering.
    
    	Use for problems related to the ZK3 local build environment,
    	remote site SUPs of builds, accessing network kits, ZK3 RIS
    	areas, status on builds or pools, getting added to access
    	control lists for DEC OSF/1 streams (access approvals need to
    	come from release managers).
    
    	Currently includes:
    	    barrys beikman jmf johnf lynn mad tresvik vandyck wulf zap
    admin:
    	ZK3 system administration.
    
    	Use for problems in the ZK3 production environment, such as
    	networking problems, establishing kerberos principal entries or
    	passwords, build mounts on production hosts, user accounts.
    
    	Includes admin representatives on a rotating basis; use the
    	command /usr/dec/aotd to see the administrator-of-the-day
    	and the list of hosts supported.
    
    Thank you very much...
    				-- josh friedman / cmcc & release engineering 
    
    

Date Of Receipt: 	 9-AUG-1993 14:12:08.22
From: 	FLAMBE::johnf "John Flanagan OSG Test Johnf Tools Group  09-Aug-1993 1411"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	johnf@DEC:.zko.flambe, odehelp@DEC:.zko.flambe
Subj: 	Re:

Geetha,


Currently the agosminor pool is locked.  This will also block you from 
doing sadmin commands.  The pool will probably be re-opened in a couple of
days and you can retry the sadmin command then.

John

Date Of Receipt: 	11-OCT-1993 16:36:41.34
From: 	ALPHA::"[email protected]" "John Flanagan USG Test Johnf Tools Group  11-Oct-1993 1636"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected], [email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

Rob,
How did you create XInput_orig?  Was it via a mksb?

John

Date Of Receipt: 	24-MAY-1994 13:23:05.47
From: 	QUARRY::myrdal "Gregory Myrdal USG  24-May-1994 1322"
To: 	Tom Peterson (USG) <tomp@DEC:.zko.quarry>
CC: 	odehelp@DEC:.zko.quarry
Subj: 	Re:

Mark Angel has fixed the offending automount file.  You may need to
kill -TERM automount_pid and restart (then again, you may not).  Depends
on the state it is in.

-- Greg

 *** Responding to your message dated Tue, 24 May 94 10:52:50 -0400 :

>
>I can't seem to get the goldos pool mounted on my system.  I'm told
>this might be an automount problem.  Others I've spoken to have the
>same problem.  Can someone pls take a look at this?
>
>thanks,
>- Tom
>
># odemount goldos
>Error: Can't create directory /share/buffer/build/submits.dsk2 as mount
>point for project goldos:.
>

    ________________________________________________________________________

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    ________________________________________________________________________

Date Of Receipt: 	 4-AUG-1994 10:07:03.21
From: 	FLAMBE::johnf "John Flanagan USG Test Johnf Tools Group  04-Aug-1994 1005"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

Sam,  make sure you have the appropriate backingtrees
mounted.  To make sure, do [as root];

odemount v20supportx
odemount agxminor

and then try your workon.  You can figure out what backingtree that
sandbox is backed by by doing the following:

ls -l /tmp_mnt/home/menaker/v122/link

Date Of Receipt: 	13-SEP-1994 18:13:11.11
From: 	FLAMBE::johnf "John Flanagan USG Test Johnf Tools Group  13-Sep-1994 1810"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected], johnf@DEC:.zko.flambe
Subj: 	Re:

I assume what is happening is that you have a sandbox that is currently
backed by goldx.nightly and you are trying to use it, right?  I think
your only course of action is to manually break the link and reset it
appropriately.  

rm /tmp_mnt/home/menaker/v12/link; ln -s /usr/sde/osf1/build/goldx.bl12 link

and then do a workon to that sandbox.

You must be in a workon to do a resb.  It currently doesn't work from outside
the sandbox.

John

Date Of Receipt: 	13-SEP-1994 18:14:51.38
From: 	FLAMBE::jmf "Joshua M. Friedman OSF/UNIX SDE"
To: 	[email protected], [email protected]
CC: 	
Subj: 	Re:

Sam, are you in zk or at locus?  Check what odemount entries Evelyn's
setup there.  Also, your ~/.sandboxrc probably lists a default sandbox
which you no longer have active.  This is giving lots of useless and
confusing warnings.  You can take out the default altogether or make
it a valid working sandbox.

Try cd'ing through your sandbox 'link' to the backing tree to see if
it's mounted and "connects".  Something's either not mounted, or not
linked properly.  

The -verbose and/or -debug switches are sometimes useful on mksb or
workon or resb.

-josh

Date Of Receipt: 	16-SEP-1994 15:56:57.04
From: 	FLAMBE::"[email protected]" "Grant Van Dyck  16-Sep-1994 1551"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected], [email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

v20supportx is a clean tree - the submit tree. In the X build Makefiles
get generated as part of the build from the Imakefile. If you back to a
nightly tree, you'll find the Makefiles, else you'll have to run imake
and build them yourself.

	-Grant

| Hi,
| I have a problem with my Makefile in v20supportx. I have a sandbox v122.
| I do not have Makefile in /tmp_mnt/home/menaker/v122/src/motif/lib/Xm.
| It is what I did:
| workon -sb v122
| mklinks ./
| cd motif/lib/Xm
| bluhil:>  ls Makefile
| Makefile not found
| bluhil:>  pwd
| /tmp_mnt/home/menaker/v122/src/motif/lib/Xm
| bluhil:>mklinks ./
| bluhil:>  ls Makefile
| Makefile not found
| 
| Sam

Date Of Receipt: 	16-SEP-1994 17:30:18.97
From: 	FLAMBE::jmf "Joshua M. Friedman OSF/UNIX SDE"
To: 	[email protected], [email protected]
CC: 	
Subj: 	Re:

Sam, please contact [email protected] for help on how the X pools
are structured and how to do the builds you require.

	-josh

Date Of Receipt: 	21-SEP-1994 17:30:17.65
From: 	ALPHA::"[email protected]" "21-Sep-1994 1727"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected]
Subj: 	FWD:

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Hi,

	Please refer to my earlier message below.

	I would like you to add deil.unx.dec.com (and deil.bbi.dec.com) to the 
kerberos master list so that the copy of database gets pushed on to these 
machines.

	Please confirm per return mail.

	Thanks.

Rgds
- - Nitin.

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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 94 10:46:57 -0400
From: sane
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Hello,

	I am from Digital India, currently located at UNX, Manalapan. 

	As you must be aware, I am here to transition the maintenance of a
	subset of OSF/1 commands to India.

	I currently have a OSF/1 host (deil.unx.dec.com) which will go back
	to India with me (and will become deil.bbi.dec.com).

	Since after transition, deil will serve as ODE client (off server
	secret.zk3.dec.com), I intend to start the process right now so
	that problems, if any, can be resolved now. (Remember, after 
	transition, any problem-solution will have a turn-around time of 1 
	day, due to timezone difference.)

	Hence, I propose that we set up deil.unx.dec.com as a ODE client
	and I will do sup everyday. This will give me a hands on experience
	to manage ODE client.

	Also, since only a small subset of the OSF/1 pools is needed to be
	accessed by the team in India, I would like to know if there is any
	way by which sup can be done only on a selected subset of files ??
	This will conserve the network bandwidth.

	Awaiting an early reply from you.

	Thanks.


Rgds
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Date Of Receipt: 	11-OCT-1994 16:49:17.60
From: 	FLAMBE::mike "Mike DeMarco UES  11-Oct-1994 1646"
To: 	chs@DEC:.zko.flambe
CC: 	davidson@DEC:.zko.flambe, admin@DEC:.zko.flambe, odehelp@DEC:.zko.flambe,
	mike@DEC:.zko.flambe
Subj: 	Re:

done.

mike

Date Of Receipt: 	 2-FEB-1995 13:03:28.78
From: 	SMURF::FLAMBE::jmf "Joshua M. Friedman OSF/UNIX SDE"
To: 	[email protected], [email protected]
CC: 	
Subj: 	Re:

I see there is a depency on silver minor x bl9 which isn't supposed to
be there...  I'll investigate.  You could sup that pool but it would
be wasteful of space (all that's actually needed is the rc_files directory
from  agxminor.bl9

	-josh

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	Subject: 
	Date: Thu, 02 Feb 95 12:13:37 -0500
	From: [email protected]
	X-Mts: smtp
	
	
	Hi,
	I am trying to use v30supportx.nightly on bluhil and xert and what happens:
	
	xert.zk3.dec.com>workon -sb v30
	cannot find include file ../link/rc_files/shared.sharedsandbox
	>> FATAL ERROR in workon:
	>> No Access to Backing Tree Through link
	dir:/tmp_mnt/share/inr/build/v30support.dsk6/v30supportx.n
	ightly/link/rc_files/../link
	Error parsing rc description file ./shared
	Error parsing rc description file ../link/rc_files/shared.sharedsandbox
	Error parsing rc description file ./shared
	Error parsing rc description file ../link/rc_files/shared.sharedsandbox
	Error parsing rc description file ./shared
	xert.zk3.dec.com>
	
	
	Can you help me?
	
	Sam Menaker
	

Date Of Receipt: 	 6-MAR-1995 11:53:20.75
From: 	SMURF::SEAN::davidson "D. Sean Davidson"
To: 	lembree odehelp
CC: 	
Subj: 	Re:

This could be caused by having some nfs mount already at this mount point
that you do not have access to create the directory or symbolic link pointing
to some file system you do not have access to.

Sean

Date Of Receipt: 	 6-MAR-1995 11:57:16.60
From: 	SMURF::QUARRY::"[email protected]" "06-Mar-1995 1155"
To: 	"Rob Lembree" <[email protected]>
CC: 	[email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

Stale mount points usually. or automount is you're crazy enough to depend on 
that for your mounts :-)

If you're using automount, you'll probably have to reboot. If not, try to 
umount and then remount the trees.

	-Grant

| 
| What would cause this?
| 
| # odemount goldminx
| Error: Can't create directory /share/secret/build/submits.dsk1 as mount point
 
| fo
| r project goldminx:.
| # odemount v32supportx
| Error: Can't create directory /share/secret/build/submits.dsk2 as mount point
 
| fo
| r project v32supportx:.
| +---------------------------------------------------------------+
| |  Rob Lembree                            Unix Software Group   |
| |  DEC OSF/1 X Servers Project Leader                           |
| |  Digital Equipment Corporation                                |
| |  Mailstop: ZKO3-3/Y25                   Tel: (603) 881-0901   |
| |  110 Spitbrook Road, ZKO3-2/W17         Fax: (603) 881-2257   |
| |  Nashua, NH 03062-2698                  <[email protected]> |
| |                                                               |
| |  URL: http://www.digital.com/info/rlembree.html               |
| |  PGP-2.6.2 key available upon request                         |
| |  MIME-1.0 & Enriched-Text mail accepted                       |
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| 

Date Of Receipt: 	10-MAR-1995 11:22:36.95
From: 	SMURF::ALPHA::"[email protected]" "10-Mar-1995 1121"
To: 	"Rob Lembree" <[email protected]>
CC: 	[email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

Can you provide more data please?  How did they get there. Why are they going 
away?

		-Grant

| 
| Would you please remove the following rcs files in the R6 pool?
| 
| 	./contrib/extensions/xv/Imakefile,v
| 	./contrib/extensions/xv/clients/Imakefile,v
| 	./contrib/extensions/xv/clients/vset.c,v
| 
| Many thanks,
| Rob
| 
| +---------------------------------------------------------------+
| |  Rob Lembree                            Unix Software Group   |
| |  DEC OSF/1 X Servers Project Leader                           |
| |  Digital Equipment Corporation                                |
| |  Mailstop: ZKO3-3/Y25                   Tel: (603) 881-0901   |
| |  110 Spitbrook Road, ZKO3-2/W17         Fax: (603) 881-2257   |
| |  Nashua, NH 03062-2698                  <[email protected]> |
| |                                                               |
| |  URL: http://www.digital.com/info/rlembree.html               |
| |  PGP-2.6.2 key available upon request                         |
| |  MIME-1.0 & Enriched-Text mail accepted                       |
| +---------------------------------------------------------------+
| 

Date Of Receipt: 	27-MAR-1995 10:10:23.82
From: 	SMURF::QUARRY::"[email protected]" "27-Mar-1995 1009"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	[email protected], [email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

My guess is that when you re-installed you neglected to load the OSFPGMR400 
subset. The config program builds using the local (system) libs so it can run 
locally during the build. If you don't have it on your system, it can't build.

You can do a setld and add it any time.

		-Grant
	
| 
| Hi Build Help,
| 
| 
| I recently upgraded my work station to Platinum, then reinstalled ODE.
| 
| I now get the following error message:
| makepath src/. && cd src &&  exec make 'RELEASE_OPTIONS=-idfile `genloc /src/
setup/osf1_idlist`'    MAKEFILE_PASS=BASIC dopass_all
| [ /kernel/src/config ]
| makepath config/. && cd config &&  exec make 'RELEASE_OPTIONS=-idfile `genloc
 /src/setup/osf1_idlist`'    MAKEFILE_PASS=BASIC dopass_all
| env - COMP_HOST_ROOT=/ COMP_TARGET_ROOT=/ /usr/bin/cc   -EL -call_shared  -O2
  -non_shared -tr -h/usr/lib/cmplrs/cc -B    `genpath  -L/usr/lib -L/lib ` -L/u
sr/lib -L/lib -o config.X y.tab.o lex.yy.o main.o mkioconf.o mkmakefile.o  mkgl
ue.o mkheaders.o mkswapconf.o mklocalconf.o  AFclose.o AFgetatr.o AFgetent.o AF
getval.o       AFnxtatr.o AFnxtent.o AFnxtval.o AFopen.o        AFread.o AFrewi
nd.o AFsetdflt.o  -lln  
| ld:
| Can't locate file for: -lln
| *** Exit 1
| Stop.
| *** Exit 1
| Stop.
| *** Exit 1
| Stop.
| *** Exit 1
| Stop.
| 
| 
| when I attempt to do an initial build (build setup BINARY) in the newly creat
ed
| "kernel" dir. I tried blowing away my "sandbox" and redoing and got the
| same message.
| 
| Is there anything new I should be doing (I haven't built a kernel for some
| time)?
| 
| 
| Floyd,
| 

Date Of Receipt: 	27-MAR-1995 12:14:18.38
From: 	SMURF::QUARRY::"[email protected]" "27-Mar-1995 1213"
To: 	"Grant Van Dyck" <[email protected]>
CC: 	[email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

Hi Build Help,

I did a setld -i and it shows that:
OSFPGMR400                      Software Development Environment (Software
Development)
is installed on my machine. I selected "all" when I installed Platinum
BL 3, but I do know that not everything was in that build. Is there any
other component you might think is missing that I might just "pull over"
from PBL 5?


Floyd,

Date Of Receipt: 	27-MAR-1995 12:23:15.44
From: 	SMURF::QUARRY::"[email protected]" "27-Mar-1995 1221"
To: 	[email protected]
CC: 	"Grant Van Dyck" <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected]
Subj: 	Re:
This shows that it's NOT installed. If it were, it'd look like: 	

OSFPGMR320      installed       Software Development Environment (Software 
Development)    ^^^^^^^^^


Not sure if you can mix and match BL3 and BL5 - but you can try. Is the BL3 CD 
no longer available?

	-Grant

| 
| Hi Build Help,
| 
| I did a setld -i and it shows that:
| OSFPGMR400                      Software Development Environment (Software
| Development)
| is installed on my machine. I selected "all" when I installed Platinum
| BL 3, but I do know that not everything was in that build. Is there any
| other component you might think is missing that I might just "pull over"
| from PBL 5?
| 
| 
| Floyd,
| 

Date Of Receipt: 	 2-JUN-1995 15:56:22.75
From: 	SMURF::WASTED::"[email protected]" "02-Jun-1995 1554"
To: 	"Brian Simons, UEG/I18N" <[email protected]>
CC: 	[email protected], [email protected]
Subj: 	Re:

All set. try now.

	-Grant

| Grant, sorry to bother you again,
| but I need to bcreate some files in ptdx, and I'm getting 
| rcs: access denied by ACL
| 
| Can you add me to the ACL?
| thx
| bs
| 

Date Of Receipt: 	22-AUG-1995 10:25:44.78
From: 	SMURF::FLUME::johnf "John Flanagan USG Test Johnf Tools Group  22-Aug-1995 1024"
To: 	"Rob Lembree" <lembree@DEC:.zko.flume>
CC: 	odehelp@DEC:.zko.flume
Subj: 	Re:

Does the following directory exist and is it writeable?

/var/dss/kerberos/tkt


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