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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

796.0. "I'd like to float a table" by CASEE::CLARK (Ward Clark) Wed Aug 12 1987 13:26

    Given that tables and figures are conceptually similar document
    elements, it is unfortunate that their specification tags are not
    more consistent.

    I ran into this problem when I tried to FLOAT a table -- that figure
    feature is not supported for tables. 

    I then decided to compare the <FIGURE_ATTRIBUTES> and <TABLE_ATTRIBUTES>
    arguments:

	MULTIPAGE
            This feature seems consistent, with minor differences because
            figures and tables aren't precisely the same. 

	KEEP
            Bind a figure to the preceding text (and if there isn't room,
            then ???); keep a table together, moving it to a new page if
            necessary. 

	FLOAT
	    Supported only for figures.

	WIDE
	    This feature seems consistent.

	MAXIMUM
            Supported only for tables.  Because I don't really understand
            this feature, I don't know if there should be an analogous
            feature for figures. 

    -- Ward
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796.1even sorrow floats, but not tablesCLOSET::ANKLAMWed Aug 12 1987 17:5815
    
    I disagree that figures and tables are conceptually similar, but
    sympathize with users who confuse similarly named attributes that
    have subtly different meanings. It wasn't until I did my final
    thorough review of the documentation that I realized we should
    have used NOFLOAT instead of KEEP for figures. That would have,
    at least, avoided the assumption that since figures can either
    float or be kept that it must also be true that tables can either
    float or be kept. 
    
    I'm not sure it is possible to float tables; I mean, I know that
    it is impossible in V1.0 as implemented, but I'm not sure how
    difficult a programming task it would be to float a table.
    
    pa
796.2One more for the wish listCASEE::CLARKWard ClarkThu Aug 13 1987 05:0021
    .1>  I disagree that figures and tables are conceptually similar,

    My claim of conceptual similarity is based on my use of figures and
    tables as extensions to text.  That is, when the narrative gets dense
    or complex, it helps to draw a simple picture or include a table that
    summarizes the facts.  Most times it's not necessary for the figure or
    table to be bound to the text.  That's why floating is such a useful
    layout concept.

    While I was writing the preceding paragraph, I realized that it
    probably wouldn't be long before I want to float an example.  I checked
    the User Manual and was pleased to find that <EXAMPLE_ATTRIBUTES>
    includes a FLOAT argument.

    .1>  I'm not sure how difficult a programming task it would be to float
    .1>  a table.

    Let's put floating tables on the wish list and trust the developers to
    find a way to do it.

    -- Ward