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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

735.0. "Problem with the digital logo" by GVASA::SCHMID (Michel Schmid, Geneva) Fri Jul 31 1987 12:20

    I've just installed V1.0 here in Geneva. I'm trying to process files
    which have been written with a previous version of Document and
    that I have converted using doc$convert. I use the SOFTWARE.REFERENCE
    doctype. I'm having two problems:
    
    1) The digital logo in the Copyright section doesn't print. The
    formatter gives an error message saying that file DECLOGO.NFT is a bad
    font file. 
    
    2) Instead of having the current heading printed at the top of each
    page, I got the word "Preface" on all page. The preface is correctly
    ended with a <ENDPREFACE> tag followed with a <ENDFRONT_MATTER>.
    
    Does this sound known? (it's my first DOCUMENT experience).
    
    Michel.
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735.1U.R. sure of an errorfree kit?IJSAPL::KLERKTheo de KlerkFri Jul 31 1987 12:578
 Are you sure your installation kit was copied without
 any parity errors? It's known to happen occassionally when copying
 savesets to Europe...

 My DIGITAL.NFT seems to work fine.. you may wish to copy the file from
 here (Holland) to you:  IJSAPL::DOC$LN03_FONTS:DIGITAL.NFT 

THEO
735.2does this help?VAXUUM::KOHLBRENNERFri Jul 31 1987 16:309
    what comes after the <endpreface><endfront_matter>?
    
    I think you need a <chapter> or <appendix> or <part> tag.
    
    as for not having the DECLOGO.NFT, did you install the DOCINT010
    kit?
    
    bill
    
735.3Answer to .1 and .2GVASA::SCHMIDMichel Schmid, GenevaMon Aug 03 1987 06:5016
    re: .1, Theo, No, I'm absolutely not sure this kit is error-free. I've
    copied your DECLOGO.*. It is exactly the same file as mine and shows
    the same behavior. Thus I'm afraid that something else was corrupted in
    the kit I did copy from Valbonne, on VISA::. 
    
    re: .2, Yes, Bill, There are indeed only <head1> and <head2> following
    the <endpreface><endfront_matter> in my files. They were however
    written using a previous version of DOCUMENT, and did print correctly
    with this version (I ignore which one it was). 
                                                                      
    Anyway, maybe both problems have the same cause. I'll try to re-install
    everything before looking further. Thus if somebody has a
    parity-error-free kit, when possible in Europe, pls let me know.
                                                                     
    Michel.
                                                  
735.4you have a "chapter-oriented" documentVAXUUM::KOHLBRENNERMon Aug 03 1987 10:468
    I checked with the authorities around here and they say, that unless
    you are using a local doctype, there is no way to get the latest
    <head> tag to print in the page header.  The <endpreface> and
    <endfront_matter> tags do not "turn off" the page heading, because
    they assume that there is another element-heading tag coming along
    which will set up the new page heading.  So you once you use the
    <preface> tag, you must use <chapter>, etc tags to control the
    page heading.                  -bill
735.5<title> oriented document?GVASA::SCHMIDMichel Schmid, GenevaMon Aug 03 1987 11:529
    It might well be that a local doctype was used: What was printed in the
    page header wasn't the last <head> but the <title> from the
    <title_page>. 
    
    Something else, when I ran doc$convert on the original .GNC files,
    the <title> in the .SDML files where all preceded with a <COMMENT>
    tag, maybe because the document structure looked not standard?
    
    Michel.  
735.6Try S.BVAXUUM::SEGALMon Aug 03 1987 12:208
    You may be able to run with SOFTWARE.BROCHURE. That doctype
    is sequentially numbered (chapter not required). It captures
    the title and uses it for the running title. Perhaps your
    local doctype was derived from the same design ?
    The software.brochure design is approximately 7x9 inches (trim size),
    but could be easily enlarged.
                                                                  
    Lee
735.7baptism of fireVAXUUM::KOHLBRENNERMon Aug 03 1987 12:298
    Michel,
    
    Converting someone else's GNC file, which was run under an unknown
    doctype, to an SDML file to run under DOCUMENT V1.0 is an exacting
    task for anyone.  As a FIRST EXPERIENCE with DOCUMENT it will earn
    you a special place in heaven.
    
    Bill
735.8Still aliveGVASA::SCHMIDMichel Schmid, GenevaTue Aug 04 1987 05:0515
    Bill,
    
    I already felt my wings growing... But fortunately, just before
    take-off, I could contact the guy who produced the .GNC files. He
    used a special doctype, which he will send to me. So I'm more or
    less back on the earth. 
    
    Regarding the other problem with the DEC logo, the same guy has also
    installed V1.0 in Valbonne, and has experienced the same problem as I
    have (Bad font file message). He is currently investigating.
    
    If he can find something, I will communicate it here.
    
           
    Michel. 
735.9Logo problem curedGVASA::SCHMIDMichel Schmid, GenevaMon Aug 10 1987 10:2817
    The solution to the Digital logo problem has been found by Patrice
    Dor� in Valbonne. The cause of the problem was a misunderstanding
    of the installation instructions:
    
    At some point of the installation of V1.0, I saw a question saying
    that if LN03 fonts are not yet installed, full Ln03 support should
    not be selected (I don't remember the exact terms) now, but rather
    during a subsequent partial installation, following the font
    installation. As I didn't had any fonts installed, I answered in
    this sense to the question. The result was this problem with the
    logo (and also with the font used with PICMODE figures).
    
    The I re-started the full installation, with the fonts already loaded
    from the first installation, and I didn't see that strange question
    appear. And since then, this problem has gone.
    
    Michel.