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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

654.0. "Will DOCUMENT/BATCH V1.0 be compatible with SUBMIT?" by CASEE::CLARK (Ward Clark) Tue Jul 14 1987 13:04

    BL7 and BL8 both are compatible with SUBMIT in putting a batch job log
    file in the user's SYS$LOGIN directory.

    However, the BL8 Release notes indicate that "the LOG file will be
    placed in the current directory."

    Is this incompatibility with SUBMIT a good idea?

    Notice that I'm not asking where the "best" place for a log file is.
    I believe that SUBMIT V1-V4 has cast "best" in concrete.

    -- Ward
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654.1potential ratholeCLOSET::PELTZ�lvynstar Dun�dainTue Jul 14 1987 15:4215
>    However, the BL8 Release notes indicate that "the LOG file will be
>    placed in the current directory."

         Well, V1.0 will do the same thing.  This topic has been
         debated back and forth for a long while.   When earlier
         base levels put the .LOG file in your SYS$LOGIN directory
         many folks complained.  I will assume that the same will
         happened now that we switched it back.  

>    Is this incompatibility with SUBMIT a good idea?
         
         I don't know.  But, unless we get a lot more complaints
         I suspect that it will stay as it is now.
654.22�BUNSUP::LITTLETodd Little, New York Area SWS, 323-4475Wed Jul 15 1987 13:1114
    Because SUBMIT V1-V4 has cast something in concrete that has caused
    many people many headaches is no reason to follow its lead.  Besides,
    the user isn't issuing a SUBMIT command, and many of my users don't
    even know what a SUBMIT command is, much less what its behavior is.  If
    all DOCUMENT did was to issue a SUBMIT command then one could argue
    about the usefulness of the /BATCH qualifier.  Why should processing
    something in BATCH place any output files in any other location than
    what would happen if the processing occured without the /BATCH.  The
    more transparent DOCUMENT can make this process, the more likely users
    will use it.  Maybe a better cause would be to push on VMS to make
    SUBMIT more transparent to the user and change the default (or related
    file spec or whatever it is) on the /LOG qualifer to SYS$DISK:[]. 
    
    -tl