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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

650.0. "Underline is a poor substitute for "_"" by CASEE::CLARK (Ward Clark) Mon Jul 13 1987 15:07

    I'm documenting a collection of callable routines with conventional VMS
    names that include "_" characters.  Unfortunately, using the
    REPORT.TWOCOL doctype, these characters come out looking like this on
    an LN03: 

	ABC DEF XYZ    instead of    ABC_DEF_XYZ
	   -   -

    Well, it's not quite that bad, but you get the idea.  To see real-life
    examples, look at the DOCUMENT User Manual.  There must be close to a
    million of the almost-invisible "_" characters in a variety of fonts.

    I recall reading somewhere in a typesetting discussion that underline
    (a.k.a. underscore) is different from a "--" dropped to the base line.
    (It was called something like "low-bar").

    If DOCUMENT supports the character I'm looking for, please point me to
    it.  Otherwise, please put support for this important character HIGH on
    the V1.2 wish list. 

    -- Ward
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650.1"To be fixed...?"NWLONG::LONGWed Jul 15 1987 16:1914
    
    There was a [much] earlier discussion on fonts, and the issue of
    the underscore character was brought up.  I believe Patti or one
    of the other DOCUMENT folks were talking to the font supplier
    about {them|us} editing that particular character.  If we had
    a vt_drawing font set, you could use scan_7, but no such luck...
    
    It may be fixed in the SDC version of the LN03 fonts.  I haven't
    had a chance to look at PostScript output yet, but at least in
    that device it can be replaced by a macro, if you don't like the
    way it looks.
    
    Harold
650.2Fixed in First Release...CLOSET::UTTThu Jul 16 1987 09:557
    Yes, I did reply to an earlier query about this but blessed if I
    remember which note...
    
    Anyway, the underscores as supplied by the font vendors *are* 
    unacceptable for our uses and we have altered them (making them
    higher, fatter, and wider). The fonts with the new underscore
    characters will be on the V1.0 LN03 font kit.
650.3underscore (low bar) vs. underliningCASEE::CLARKWard ClarkThu Jul 16 1987 10:589
    Will the V1.0 LN03 fonts distinguish between the underscore (low bar)
    character and underlining? 

    Same question, asked another way:

    With V1.0, will DOCUMENT be able to underline an underscore (and be
    able to see the both)? 

    -- Ward
650.4Utt-erly beautifulVAXUUM::SEGALThu Jul 16 1987 11:241
    Yes.
650.5only one char position availableNWLONG::LONGFri Jul 17 1987 13:325
    
    ...but I suspect the character at position '_' is the wide/fat/high
    font, and the only way you can underline it is with <underline>(...).
650.6FYI3D::BOYACKanchorclanker hoseprose incorporealThu Aug 27 1987 15:321
    Note 195.* has more on underscores.