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| 574.1 | | GNUVAX::LIBRARIAN | Looking at the big sky | Tue Jun 30 1987 11:40 | 15 |
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> The price I seem to be paying is that I sometimes get lots of white
> space between text and a figure; white space into which the figure
> should fit. This has been brought up under BL6 and BL7 notes both,
You mean there is a whitespace left that is as large as the graphic?
With the latest version of GRED you should be able to CROP and use
RENDER/FRAME and shouldn't have to play around with the sixel file
directly. Try it!
Lance
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| 574.2 | | DECWET::KOSAK | | Tue Jun 30 1987 12:24 | 12 |
| It's been so long since I've tried including sixel files that I just
gave it a shot using baselevel 8. GRED's cropping feature does work,
but, for me anyway, it shifts the figure 2 picas up within the figure
space. If this is consistent behavior you might work around it
by cropping an extra 2 picas above the figure. That might work.
When your PostScript printers show up you shouldn't have to worry about
this anymore. We've been including a lot of figures and haven't
run into any real problems (sound of knocking on wood in the
background).
-- Craig
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| 574.3 | Yup, lots of space for a figure... | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Tue Jun 30 1987 16:30 | 10 |
| RE: .1
Yes, it leaves plenty of white space into which the figure could easily fit.
And it's not consistent behavior; some figures do it, some don't.
What is the latest version of GRED? We are probably running something really
old here...
Thanx Rose
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| 574.4 | Check for latest and greatest | GNUVAX::LIBRARIAN | Looking at the big sky | Tue Jun 30 1987 16:36 | 11 |
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You should probably check the GRED notesfile
(VAXUUM/CLOSET::DOC_GRAPHICS) and make sure you're running the latest
version of GRED _and_ HCUIS.
We're creating and including graphics by the hundreds here and we're
not seeing the behavior you described.
Lance
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| 574.5 | | DECWET::KOSAK | | Tue Jun 30 1987 16:40 | 9 |
| Check the version number of GRED.EXE. The latest is ;107. If you're
running a *really* old GRED you'll need to copy over new fonts as
well. Also, you'll need to be running HCUIS 3.2 (sounds like that's
what you're running Rose, since you use the /FRAME qualifier).
The VAXUUM::DOC_GRAPHICS conference will point you to the location
of the latest files.
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| 574.6 | How about the floating-across-sections question? | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Mon Jul 06 1987 17:33 | 14 |
| Thanx for the all the pointers to the lates GRED info.
To regress a bit, the first question I asked in .0 is directed at the
development team; I'll restate it here, slightly rephrasing.
Figures float across sections in a chapter; will this be fixed
in V1.0 so that figures remain within the section in which
the <figure> tag appears?
Thanx
Rose
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| 574.7 | KEEP | CLOSET::ANKLAM | | Tue Jul 07 1987 09:08 | 7 |
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sorry, I thought I had answered that. If you don't want a figure
to float, give it the attribute KEEP. When the text formatter
floats a figure, it simply holds it until a good place; it has
no knowledge of content (i.e. sections)
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| 574.8 | Keep figure in its section (wishlist) | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Tue Jul 07 1987 13:25 | 19 |
| Actually, Patti, you have answered how to <keep> figures in many notes
previous this one. I was using it; but thanx still for the reminder.
WISHLIST: Have DOCUMENT (V1.1?) know enough to float figures within sections
only, and not across them. Then use <keep> only for those times that a
figures absolutely must appear exactly where tagged in the source file.
In my experience, figures can float within sections with little negative
impact on the reader; floating them across sections makes it harder on the
reader.
Fulfilling this wish would also make it easier on the illustrators, who
currently take great pains during pasteup to keep a figure in the section
that references it; having DOCUMENT do it would save some significant pasteup
effort.
Thanx
Rose
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| 574.9 | An untried but maybe true means | BUNSUP::LITTLE | Todd Little NJCD SWS 323-4475 | Tue Jul 07 1987 19:20 | 20 |
| I think you can modify the design to prevent figures from floating
beyond section boundries. I haven't tried the following, but it
is worth a chance. Place the following loop inside the definitions
for sections (over which you don't want figures to float) in your
design file:
\ifheldfigures
\loop
\figureejectpage
\line{}\kern-\topskip\nobreak
\ifheldfigures
\repeat
\fi
I think this will force all floating figures to be "ejected", although
again, I say this is untested. If you try this in any form, please
post a note with your results.
-tl
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