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Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

554.0. "Infos about the different DOCUMENT's versions ?" by PRSIS4::BURESI (Marc, Paris, DTN 858-5395) Thu Jun 25 1987 10:03

    Hi,
    
    I haven't been following this notesfile for a while, and don't know
    how the development of DOCUMENT is going.
    
    I'd like to have some light about the following points:
    
    1 - I've been using BL6, then converted to the FT version (was it BL7)
    around March. Is there a newer Base Level (I read about BL8 in this
    notesfile)? 
    
    2 - If yes, what are the changes between the version I have ? Should
    I need a new conversion ? In my BL6 documents, I was using a lot
    of symbols, and got a lot of problems upgrading.
    
    3 - Also, do you have an idea of when the final version will be
    available ? In other words, is it worth installing the newer BL, or is
    it better to wait some time ? 
   
    Thanks for your help,
    
    Marc.
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554.1InfoCLOSET::ANKLAMThu Jun 25 1987 12:1915
    
    The differences between BL7 and BL8 were mainly bug fixes, some
    new fonts (30pts, I think it was), and improved MCS support (in
    indexing and monospaced examples). We are going to the SDC at
    the end of next month, and will probably have the final internal
    version by then. 
    
    The conversion process is essentially the same; there were no more
    tag name changes. The converter itself has had a number of bug fixes.
    
     I'd appreciate comments from people who installed BL8 after BL7
    as to whether it was worth the effort.
    
    patti
    
554.2When V1.0 ?CADSYS::MCDONOUGHThu Jun 25 1987 13:1315
re .0

    I'd also like to know the answer to the first part of Marc's third question.

    Thanks.
    Kevin

    
>    3 - Also, do you have an idea of when the final version will be
>    available ? 
>   
>    Thanks for your help,
>    
>    Marc.

554.3BL8 definitely worthwhileDECWET::CUSTERThu Jun 25 1987 13:2311
    Re .1
    
    By all means, install BL8 if you're doing any significant DOCUMENT
    work.  The bugs fixes are worth the installation effort (at least they
    [definitely!] were for us).  Since no tags change from BL7 to BL8, you
    can only benefit by switching to the latest version -- you don't have
    to recode anything. Additionally, if you still have files to convert,
    the converter is much more stable and error-free in BL8 than in BL7. 
    
    	-Helen
    
554.4MARTY::FRIEDMANThu Jun 25 1987 14:2317
    We in CUP/ML have decided to stick with BL7 until V1 is available.
    Patti, do you see any problem with that?
    
    I feel that there would be too much confusion if we had BL6, 7 and
    8 available in the same group all at that same time. We still have
    quite a few books that are being done in BL6--in some cases because
    that is the only baselevel where the doctype is supported.
    
    --aside--
    We were using RSX11M and MICROVMS, but these have gone away and
    we would prefer not to make them into local doctypes. It will be
    painful but necessary to switch to other doctypes.
    --end aside--

    
    -Marty
    
554.5CLOSET::ADLERThu Jun 25 1987 19:026
The external version of the V1.0 kit will be ready in about two weeks.
I'm not sure yet how much incremental work is involved in getting out the
internal version of this baselevel, but we'll let you know as soon as we
know.

--Brian
554.6Thanks - some more questions.PRSIS4::BURESIMarc, Paris, DTN 858-5395Fri Jun 26 1987 04:3015
    Thank you all for your replies. The situation is clearer for me now.
    Still another question: I actually installed what I guess was BL7 on a
    separate computer, still using BL6 on the other until I convert. 
    
    I'm now probably going to upgrade the BL6 machine. How difficult would
    it be to upgrade from BL6 to BL8 directly ? Are the installation guide
    and release notes of BL7 enough to perform the installation ? 
    
    Finally, could you let me know (a pointer to the relevant notes is
    enough, a "dir/title=kit" and a "dir/title=doc" didn't give me the
    answer) where are located the kit and doc of BL7 and BL8 ? 
    
    Thanks and regards,
    
    Marc.
554.7some more answersCLOSET::ANKLAMFri Jun 26 1987 09:428
    
    See 1.8 for information on the kit and documentation. There is no
    difficulty in going directly from 06 to 08, but you need the
    T1.0 (BL7) special edition of the release notes explaining all the
    differences between 6 and 7 (and above). (This file is
    CLOSET::USE3$:[SDML.BL7]DOCT10_RELEASE_NOTES.LN3 or .LNO)
    
    
554.8<MANY_THANKS>PRSIS4::BURESIMarc, Paris, DTN 858-5395Fri Jun 26 1987 09:460
554.9BL8 worth it for TOC & IndexDSSDEV::EPPESDignity, always dignityFri Jun 26 1987 18:383
    It's worth installing BL8 just to have the one-step table of contents
    and index processing...!
						-- Nina
554.10BL8 files run under BL7?COOKIE::JOHNSTONFri Jun 26 1987 20:5115
Here's an odd question -- are there any problems to anticipate when 
creating files under BL8 and running them under BL7, aside from the 
index and toc issues?

I'm teaching a class next week and have student accounts with access to 
BL8; but found out today (contrary to earlier information) that some of 
the students have access from their regular accounts only to a BL7 
version.  I want to provide them with any necessary "regression"
cautions. 



Thanx

Rose
554.11mainly processing issuesCLOSET::ANKLAMMon Jun 29 1987 10:168
    
    The main differences are processing issues:
    
    - table of contents and index inclusion
    - the /LIST qualifier (and contents of .LIS file)
    - the naming of batch job log files
    
    
554.12Less Disk SpaceCLOSET::ETZELMikeThu Jul 02 1987 14:193
    -Deletion of intermediate files (wins points w/ system managers)
    -More explicit output file names