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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

453.0. "LINE & MAIL \hoffset always 12pc?" by 57609::LONG () Mon Jun 01 1987 15:05

    
    	If I use either the LINE or MAIL device types, my text is set
    approximately 12 picas from the left physical edge of the paper
    when printed to an LN03.  This seems to be true for at least
    the REPORT and MEMO doctypes.
    
    	I copied tex$report.design to doc$personal_formats and tried
    to change \setlpdesign; \hoffset was already set to 0pt, so I
    changed to -6pc to see what would happen... ...nothing.  Also
    changed \vsize and this came through, so I know that at least
    the personal doctype design was being processed.
    
    	Using DOCUMENT\MAP only showed me the .STT file inclusions,
    not the .DESIGN, so I can't seem to trace where the \hoffset is
    being overridden.  Any pointers?
    
    	Harold
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453.1ref $406CLOSET::ANKLAMMon Jun 01 1987 17:103
    
    See 406.
453.2it don't work57609::LONGMon Jun 01 1987 19:2413
    
    Sorry to report the two fixes mentioned don't do anything... at
    least they don't work for me.
    
    \global\def\setlpdesign { \hoffset=0pt } does not take effect
    either in the .DESIGN file mentioned in 453.0, or as an <INCLUDE_
    TEX_FILE> of the recommended defaults shown in 406.1.
    
    /DEVICE=(H=72) does nothing that I can see, either.
    
    Is it possible to give me some other ways to try workarounds?
    
    Harold
453.3HORIZONTAL_OFFSET will move the formatted pageVAXUUM::DEVRIESThose are features, not bugsTue Jun 02 1987 10:3710
    > /DEVICE=(H=72) does nothing that I can see, either.
     
    72 points is the default horizontal offset in the device converter,
    so using this value just reproduces the default situation.
    
    If you use /DEVICE=(H=36), for instance, it should move your page
    image 1/2 inch to the left.  (The units are points: 72 points to
    the inch.)
    
    Mark
453.4"Wolf!"57609::LONGTue Jun 02 1987 13:3212
    
    $ SET FACE/COLOR=RED/LOOKS=DUMB
    
    Sorry, all.  After I (a) read note 453.3, and (b) typed in Patti's
    \hoffset fix EXACTLY the way she indicates, I now have MAIL output
    that very nicely sets at 13 picas from the left physical edge...
    
    I don't know why the \hoffset=0pt in the DOC$STANDARD_FORMATS does
    not take effect, but in a DOC$PERSONAL_FORMATS it is now working
    fine.  Ah well, now on to my next hack...
    
    Harold