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Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

362.0. "Pre-list Space" by MARTY::FRIEDMAN () Mon May 11 1987 15:24

    I recall in a previous note the suggestion that lists be smart enough
    to know how much 'pre-list' space to leave, depending on the context.
    Is this something that will happen in V1? Until it happens, is there
    are workaround short of going into the .TEX file?
    
    Thanks.

    Marty
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362.1use DESIGN filesCLOSET::ANKLAMTue May 19 1987 15:3714
    
    I'm not quite sure what you want here; some context-specific things
    are doable with the current setup. For example, if you want less
    space before a list in a table, you could add the setting to
    your \tablefontspecs:
    
    \def\tablefontspecs{%
        \ninepointss
        \prelevskip=15pt}
    
    etc.
    
    patti
    
362.2Perhaps this is what he wants...EDEN::DENHAMJeff Denham, DTN 223-6770Tue May 19 1987 18:2033
    I think Marty means that when he puts a list in table column, he'd like
    less space surrounding the list than when he puts a list into a plain
    old paragraph: 
    
   
    Table 1-1: A Table with a List
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Column 1                Column 2
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Item the first          Item the first has three
                            characteristics:
                            o one                            --
                            o two                              |  Less
                            o three                            |  Space
                            But none is significant.         --
    
    Item the second         Buzz buzz
    -------------------------------------------------------
    

    1.2  Item the First:  A Paragraph with a List
    
    Item the first has three characteristics:
    
    o one           --
    o two             |  More space around the list.
    o three           |
                    --
    But none is significant.                        

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    Two contexts, two spacing schemes. And all without fiddling with TeX. 
362.3okCLOSET::ANKLAMWed May 20 1987 09:402
    
    then my suggestion in .1 is the way to do that.
362.4MARTY::FRIEDMANWed May 20 1987 16:2224
 
Sorry, I should have been more specific. The problem is that sometimes a 
list begins a column in a table, and since the list puts out a \prelevskip,
the list doesn't align properly in the row:

    Table 1-1: A Table with a List
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Column 1                Column 2
    -----------------------------------------------------
    Item the zeroth                                          --  extra space
                            o One                                due to list
                            o Two                            
                            o Three                          

    -------------------------------------------------------
    
The context here is "List at beginning of table column," rather than
just "List in table."

Another case would be when a list comes right after a heading. Then
you have extra space because of the combination of \prelevskip with
the post heading skip.

Marty
362.5wishlistCLOSET::ANKLAMWed May 20 1987 17:185
    
    ok, now I understand. various types of space fiddling in tables
    and lists are on the wishlist, this among them.
    
    -pa
362.6Overheads skips 2 spacesCOOKIE::JOHNSTONWed May 20 1987 19:0119
If you didn't already have it noted, tables in overheads skip 
*2* lines when a list is used.  One work around is to use <line><line> 
before the word(s) in the "superior" column.  

There are other workarounds, but I won't list all that I know.



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