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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

353.0. "Include file is an error?" by CHAMBR::GUINEAU () Thu May 07 1987 10:01

  I'm a new user of DOCUMENT.  You guys have done a GREAT job!

  I can't believe the functionality!


  Anyway, I have a question:

	Why is including a file an error severity message?


	(On the screen)

%DVC-E-INCLUDING, including input file 
        'DUB0:[GUINEAU.ITECS.DOC]ITECS_CONTENTS.DVI_LN3;'


	Shouldn't it be a -I- ?



 Also, any possibility of adding a destination of VAXSTATION? (in addition
 to TERMINAL)


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353.1What does VAXSTATION use?PDVAX::P_DAVISaka SARAH::P_DAVISThu May 07 1987 11:503
    Just out of curiousity, what would you want a VAXSTATION destination
    to produce?  UIS calls?  Given the DECwindows strategy, I doubt
    serious consideration would be given to supporting UIS specifically.
353.2(1) oops; (2) what do you have in mind?VAXUUM::DEVRIESThose are features, not bugsThu May 07 1987 16:2418
    RE: -INCLUDING as an -E- message
    
    	You are, of course, right.  That was an implementation oversight
    	in BL07 that will be fixed in later versions.  Thanks for the
    	report.
    
    RE: VAXSTATION as a destination
    
    	To second the previous reply: what would you expect this
    	destination to provide?  The TERMINAL destination provides
    	output that can be reproduced on any ANSI device, whether
    	a VTxxx terminal, a VTxxx emulator on your VAXSTATION (or
    	whatever), or a printer that understands simple ANSI commands
    	(text, control characters, bold and underline sequences).
    	Did you have something else in mind?
    
    Mark
    
353.3PDVAX::P_DAVISPeter Davis (aka SARAH::P_DAVIS)Thu May 07 1987 16:477
    I'm guessing that the VAXSTATION destination was intended to allow
    <EMPHASIS>(previewing) of fancy documents on workstations.  This
    is something that may be possible with PostScript output on DECwindows,
    since a general purpose PostScript preview capability is being
    considered.  Other than that, however, the VAXSTATION output would
    require some display software that could show a page at a time
    with matching video fonts, etc.  Not a trivial piece of work.
353.4VAXstation's use SIXEL graphicsCHAMBR::GUINEAUThu May 07 1987 18:019


 No, nothing too fancy. Just a SIXEL output. With white space for page-breaks.

 Probably a subset of the LN03 stuff?


 John
353.5workstation preview planned -- but not trivialVAXUUM::DEVRIESThose are features, not bugsFri May 08 1987 10:2020
    > No, nothing too fancy. Just a SIXEL output.
    
    To view sixel files is trivial (just type).  To CREATE them, however,
    is very difficult.  You've got to do everything you do for any other
    device, plus figure out what pixels all that stuff on your page
    will activate for the requested characters, sizes, fonts, spacing,
    graphics, ... everything on the page, then encode that in sixel
    format.
    
    If you leave it to some other software (UIS, X, etc.) to worry about
    the pixels, you still have a full-blown device converter, at least
    as complex as the LN03 converter -- not merely a subset of it.
    
    This kind of thing is on the list for development in the near future.
    There are some kinds of previewers kicking around now, but nothing
    that is really well integrated with the world of VAX DOCUMENT. 
    This kind of thing is a requirement for the future, and will come 
    to pass.  And the sooner, the better.
    
    Mark