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| 279.1 | Stay tuned | CUPOLA::HAKKARAINEN | Crisis? What crisis? | Tue Apr 21 1987 13:18 | 14 |
| Your impression, that Document is close to, and heading toward, SGML
compliance, is correct. No, Document does not comply with SGML, yet.
Lots of religion circulates around SGML and its implementation. Because
things don't meet the standards doesn't mean that they can't or won't.
There are also historical reasons for the current state, history that
Patti can explain more completely. But, in sum, when work on Document
started, SGML was still a draft; hence, all that was possible was
virtual compliance.
Although I cannot speak for the Document group, I am certain that
activities within that group are moving on both fronts: producing a
revenue-generating product for Digital and producing a product that
will comply with the pertinent standards in coming releases.
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| 279.2 | | CLOSET::ADLER | | Tue Apr 21 1987 18:30 | 10 |
| DOCUMENT V1.0 does not conform to SGML. However, we are committed
to supporting it in the future, and are actively involved with several
other groups who are doing work in this area (specifically the DDIF
translator group and Gerry Lynch's group in Galway). We actually started
developing DOCUMENT at the same time as the SGML spec was beginning
to take shape, and our markup language, SDML, is based on the requirements
given in an earlier version of the standard.
--Brian Adler
VAX DOCUMENT project leader
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| 279.3 | Great! | 38299::THERIAULT | | Wed Apr 22 1987 13:31 | 5 |
| RE: .1, .2
Thanks! That's just what I needed to see.
Is there any way to estimate the effort/real-time until it does
conform?
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| 279.4 | What does SGML mean? | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Wed Apr 22 1987 14:41 | 8 |
| What does SGML officially expand to? Standardized Generic Markup Language?
I've heard several derivations, all of which I think come close to its actual
meaning, but it would be interesting to know what it *really* means.
Thanx
Rose
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| 279.5 | Close! (+ pointer) | 38299::THERIAULT | | Wed Apr 22 1987 14:59 | 15 |
| It stands for "Standard Generalized Markup Language"
ISO/DIS 8879 describes it.
I think you can get a copy from
Rudolf Riess
Publishing Consultant
Educational Services Development and Publishing
DIGITAL (Bedford)
dtn 249-4836
Don't tell him I sent you.
Anyone who knows how to get it without bothering him, please post
a followup note.
Dan
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| 279.6 | Start at the right place | CLOSET::KAIKOW | | Wed Apr 22 1987 15:10 | 9 |
| re: 279.5
The correct person to contact if you want a copy of an ANSI or ISO or ECMA or
lots of other standards is Mary White (DTN 223-5980) at sysstd::White.
On occasion, Mary may have to refer you to Rudy or me or some other member
of the Corporate Standards group, however, she is the place to start.
If none of us have a copy, we can tell you where to order it.
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| 279.7 | Official, Real, OK Place...FYI | MAGIC::VONSUCK | | Wed Apr 22 1987 15:42 | 21 |
| How to order copies of ISO Standards:
You may order ISO standards from:
ANSI
l430 Broadway
New York, N.Y. 100l8.
There is a catalog of ISO stds, it cost $26 and can be ordered from ANSI also.
I don't know how ZKO orders things (purchasing), but down here [MLO] I go
through Library Purchasing in NRO to get ANSI/ISO standards.
We (DEC) gets a discount of 33 1/3% on orders over $7.50 because we are a
member of ANSI.
"MEMBER DISCOUNT APPLIES" should be put on the p.o. somewhere. Don't expect
to get them overnight, ANSI is very slow in sending things out.
Standard Generalized Markup Language (SGML) ISO# 8879-1986
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| 279.8 | | VAXUUM::ADLER | | Wed Apr 22 1987 19:36 | 5 |
| RE: .3
No time estimates yet. We've been devoting 150% of our resources to V1 lately.
--Brian
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