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Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
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Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

274.0. "Math symbols independent of <math>?" by COOKIE::JOHNSTON () Fri Apr 17 1987 15:02

Any chance of making commonly used math tags available outside the 
context of <math>?

Consider simple cases like the following:

The page is 8<math>(<fraction>(1\2) ) inches by 10 
<math>(<fraction>(1\2) ) inches.

              vs

The page is 8<fraction>(1\2) inches by 10<fraction>(1\2) inches.


I'm thinking of only <plus>, <minus>, <times>, <fraction>.

<superscript> and <subscript> work in isolation already, I think.

Thanx

Rose


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274.1All should be allowed, perhaps with different fontsCLOSET::KAIKOWMon Apr 20 1987 09:291
All math tags should work outside of <math>, with perhaps a different font.
274.2Try <MCS> charactersUBEAUT::MANDERSONthe wind don&#039;t blow..... it suxMon Apr 20 1987 20:476
    Don't forget that there are <MCS> characters that you can use outside
    <MATH>. I use <MCS>(one_forth) and <MCS>(one_half) in a few
    places. They are not as extensive as <MATH> but for what I need
    they are fine.

    Kevin
274.3CLOSET::KAIKOWTue Apr 21 1987 08:3515
re: 274.2

I didn't forget about <MCS>, however, <MCS> is inadequate.

1. All of the <math_char> characters should be allowed outside of <math>.

2. Most, perhaps not all, of the <math> tag operators in tables 13-1 and 13-2
   of the User's Guide (pages 13-139 to 13-140 qnd 13-142, respectively)
   should be allowed outside of <math>. (NOTE: There is also a table 13-1 on 
   page 147.)

3. Actually, I believe that there is some duplication, e.g.:

   a. <dots> would be identical with <hellipsis>
   b. <dot times> would be identical with <mcs>(raised_period)
274.4CLOSET::ANKLAMTue Apr 21 1987 09:032
    
    <math_char> is allowed outside of <math>.
274.5Other redundant characters...COOKIE::JOHNSTONWed Apr 22 1987 12:0125
There is some duplication of characters within <math_char> and between 
<math_char> and <special_char>:

  <math_char>(parallel)  
  <math_char>(double_vert)

  <math_char>(dagger)          <math_char>(ddagger)
  <special_char>(dagger)       <special_char>(double_dagger)

  <math_char>(diamondsuit)
  <special_char>(full_diamond)

The difference between diamondsuit and full_diamond is an empty diamond 
and blackened diamond; I was curious as to why one appeared in 
<math_char> and not the other.

I couldn't see any difference between the others, such as ddagger and 
double_dagger.

Is the redundancy intentional?  Is it a matter of "correct" tagging for 
these cases?



Rose
274.6different character setsCLOSET::ANKLAMWed Apr 22 1987 12:2315
    
    THe redundancy isn't really intentional, but is a byproduct of
    supporting three 'special' character sets:
    
    <mcs> gets you characters from the DEC Multinational Set
    <special_char> gets you characters from the set of publishing
    characters
    <math_char> gets you characters from the math character set.
    
    In the case of duplications, go with <special_char>; these will
    give you the correctly sized character to go in the current font.
    The math character set only has one size.
    
    patti anklam