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229.1 | Ayup! | CLOSET::KAIKOW | | Thu Apr 09 1987 16:07 | 1 |
| Ayup!
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229.2 | ok | CLOSET::ANKLAM | | Thu Apr 09 1987 16:27 | 7 |
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<running_title> has been fixed for the three doctypes that support
it, OVERHEADS, ARTICLE, and GENERAL (soon to be renamed REPORT).
In each, it takes either one or two lines of title text.
patti
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229.3 | Do you really have to limit use? | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Thu Apr 09 1987 19:05 | 12 |
| Why limit <running_title> to those doctypes?
We use it to get a running "Restricted Distribution" header in software
specifications. Is there another, more appropriate tag in the software doctypes
that would accomplish this?
Is <running_foot> also limited to those doctypes?
Thanx
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229.4 | yes | CLOSET::ANKLAM | | Fri Apr 10 1987 08:55 | 9 |
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It is limited to doctypes that are usually the work of a single
author. One of DOCUMENT's primary goals was to achieve
consistency in books authored by more than one person. Arbitrary
specification of running titles and feet leads only to chaos,
typos, and massive inconsistency.
patti
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229.5 | Alternatives? | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Fri Apr 10 1987 14:00 | 15 |
| Ok. Then what's the recommended way to get the proper DEC headings for
sensitive documents? For Internal Use and Restricted Distribution ?
At some time Restricted Distribution could change to For Internal Use,
so you don't want to code it into a doctype. Also because not all
documents using the doctype require the same proprietary header.
Do you recommend just creating local tags to do this? Or do you think
it's desirable to add <FOR_INTERNAL_USE> tags and <RESTRICTED_DISTRIBUTION>
to the internal tag set? Or ???
Thanx
Rose
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229.6 | We need this as well | DECWET::KOSAK | | Fri Apr 10 1987 14:47 | 12 |
| We too are faced with this problem. We need the "internal
use only - proprietary and confidential" type statements to appear
on all our drafts, and would like to do this in a way that is
transparent to the writer. However, since we don't want these to
appear on the final masters, we need a way to switch it off. Any
ideas?
Thanks,
-- Craig
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229.7 | Another vote to leave headers.... | UBEAUT::MANDERSON | the wind don't blow..... it sux | Sat Apr 11 1987 08:34 | 17 |
| I am using document for preparation of programmer handbooks and
project plans. It is reasonably important for me to include the
relevant "internal use only" and project plan type of info - both
dated - on the top of each page in the end document.
I use either S.S or more recently DOCPLAN for the book builds.
At least leave a restriction type tag in both of these as I imagine
I am not the only one who will use these designs and require a similar
style of headers.
In fact the problem I strike is that for each chapter the first
page of that chapter will not print a header defined at the start
of the book build.
Regards
Kevin M
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229.8 | It's non of DOCUMENT's business | CLOSET::KAIKOW | | Thu Apr 16 1987 11:51 | 8 |
| re: 229.4
DOCUMENT has no business making such restrictions.
In constructing a multi-author book, the editor can easily put the appropriate
<running_title> and <running_feet> tags at the start of each
section/chapter/part/...
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229.9 | Any ideas yet? | DECWET::HUNT | Liz Hunt | Tue May 19 1987 16:48 | 11 |
| Patti, from your response in .4 it sounds like the decision is
to only support <running_title> and <running_feet> in OVERHEADS,
ARTICLE, and REPORT.
Any ideas in response to Rose's question in .5? What's the
recommended way to get the proper DEC markings for sensitive
documents?
I'm working on a manual that is definately DEC Confidential
and Proprietary, and I need to mark every page. We are primarily
using the SOFT.REF doctype.
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229.10 | | COOKIE::WITHERS | Le plus ca change... | Tue May 19 1987 16:53 | 9 |
| Personally, I use:
<Running_feet>(<emphasis>(For )<emphasis>(DIGITAL \BOLD)<emphasis>( Internal
Use Only))
in my standard MEMO format. I'll third the motion to be able to
propogate this to other doctypes...
BobW
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229.11 | Post-V1, internal doctypes | CLOSET::ANKLAM | | Tue May 19 1987 17:39 | 21 |
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re .9
I have it on my list to look at handling the confidential heads
as a local item, after completing the standard external doctypes,
etc. for V1.0. I want a little time to mull it over, because I'm
definitely not in favor of explicit running heads and feet.
What I did originally, back the RUNOFF days, was to define a tag
called <company_confidential>. All the tags that set heads/feet
internally checked if this tag was active and if so, put the
'confidential' message in an appropriate place (i.e. if the doctype
used running feet for the chapter, it'd put the confidential head
in the running heads and vice versa).
For project in which all documentation is confidential, the
confidential heads/feet could be in a DESIGN file that did a similar
thing...
patti
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229.12 | Which parameters? | COOKIE::JOHNSTON | | Tue May 19 1987 18:48 | 9 |
| Which parameter(s) do you change in the .DTP file to get default
running heads/feet?
Thanx
Rose
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229.13 | Language futures | CUPOLA::HAKKARAINEN | Albatross! | Wed May 20 1987 09:02 | 16 |
| Because we have so many projects that are for internal use only,
we've implemented the running things (feet and head) by calling
the definitions from a local tag defn file.
This method does introduce new ``local global'' tags, causing anxiety
for those who have to maintain the files and the definitions. And
yet, we were starting to see some kludges that were equally dangerous.
Document allows and, somewhat nervously, encourages local extensions.
Perhaps during the post-V1 mulling, we could set aside some time
for methods and criteria for extending SDML. Other languages have
to contend with similar issues -- multiple macro files and the like.
Until we reach a more thorough solution, we'll just have to be careful
and keep people informed about what we're doing.
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229.14 | RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION | 3D::BOYACK | pithy...pithy...pithy | Thu May 21 1987 12:11 | 8 |
| There is a LYNX doctype design (LYNX_SPEC.DTP) in an 8-1/2X11
format that puts a slightly modified Restricted Distribution
notice (from DEC STD 128, 4-sep-80) on the title page, and
RESTRICTED DISTRIBUTION on the top od every subsequent page.
See note 106.0 and .1.
Joe
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229.15 | | AUTHOR::WELLCOME | Steve | Thu Jul 09 1987 16:42 | 6 |
| Another vote for general inclusion of <running_head/feet> tags.
And while you're at it...how about a way to include the current
date and time in them? I'd like to be able to put a time stamp
on various drafts of my manuals.
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229.16 | <date> | CLOSET::ANKLAM | | Thu Jul 09 1987 16:48 | 4 |
|
<date> puts the date wherever you want it. at least that part's
easy!
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229.17 | | AUTHOR::WELLCOME | Steve | Thu Jul 09 1987 16:55 | 1 |
| Now the trick is to get <date> on every page....
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229.18 | | MARTY::FRIEDMAN | | Thu Jul 09 1987 17:05 | 4 |
| I still vote for a <field_test> tag or something, that does all
those good things in one swell foop.
Marty
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229.19 | Here, here... | DECWET::KOSAK | | Thu Jul 09 1987 18:12 | 3 |
| ...another vote for the <field_test> tag!
-- Craig
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229.20 | An unsupported and likely to break method | BUNSUP::LITTLE | Todd Little NJCD SWS 323-4475 | Fri Jul 10 1987 01:43 | 7 |
| In the mean time, if you really need this, I have a design that
defines a "subfooter", that is placed below all the normal text
and footers generated by DOCUMENT. Unfortunately to do this, it
requires replacing some of the DECTeX macros. If you're interested
in a copy of the doctype, let me know.
-tl
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