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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

152.0. "Logicals for LINE and POSTSCRIPT queues?" by ATLAST::BOUKNIGHT (Everything has an outline) Wed Mar 25 1987 15:24

    There are logicals to define the queues associated with the LN01
    and LN03 printers.  I can't find any mention of logicals for the
    POSTSCRIPT and LINE PRINTER queues.  Are there any?
    
    If not, please add them to the FT Update as sites need to be able
    to override the defaults for these two as they can for the LNxx's.
    
    Thanks...Jack
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152.1CUPOLA::HAKKARAINENAlbatross!Wed Mar 25 1987 15:542
    I believe that these items are set during installation. If the device
    support is not requested, then logicals are not set up.
152.2Does not look that wayATLAST::BOUKNIGHTEverything has an outlineWed Mar 25 1987 17:236
    We use all three.  Only the LN03 queue is defined by an explicit
    logical.  We assume that LINE is being defaulted to SYS$PRINT and
    POSTSCRIPT to a queue named POSTSCRIPT.  That is where the output
    does come out.  We would like to be able to queue LINE to an LN03.
    
    JACK
152.3queue name = logical nameBUNSUP::LITTLETodd Little NJCD SWS 323-4475Thu Mar 26 1987 02:099
Its late and I did this n weeks ago, but does the installation procedure
ask you for a queue name for each device you install?  That queue name
can just as easily be a logical name as a real device queue.  If
you want to change this after the fact, I recall there being a file
called DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT that has all that kind of information in it.
If you edit that file MAKE SURE YOU DON'T ADD OR DELETE ANY LINES!  If
you do, the next installation of a device will corrupt the file.

-tl
152.4yes, and yesCLOSET::ANKLAMThu Mar 26 1987 12:1312
    
    yes, the installation prompts you for a queue name, which can be
    a logical name. and yes, the name is placed in DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT
    which can be modified but only as Todd says, without adding or
    deleting any lines.
    
    we are working on procedures to automate changes to
    DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT so that folks can change the queue names or
    other defaults whenever it's appropriate to do so.
    
    patti
    
152.5Some clarification neededATLAST::BOUKNIGHTEverything has an outlineFri Mar 27 1987 11:3510
    Having read the information in the DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT file, it
    mentions SUMSLP as a good editor to use.  Does this mean that EDIT
    or TPU can't be used? Is it only number and position of lines that
    is important, and not number and position of characters on a line?
    I assume the keywords have to remain where they are and we can edit
    the values associated with the keywords.
    
    Will the maintenance procedure(s) be available before or at FT update?
    
    jack
152.6better stuff comingVAXUUM::KOHLBRENNERFri Mar 27 1987 12:0015
    SUMSLP is a terrible editor, but you can call it as part of
    an installation command procedure, so I used it.  SUMSLP 
    replaces whole lines only and only on a line number basis.
    
    So when it comes to installing support for a given device,
    we replace a known set of lines with the right stuff for that
    device.  That is why if you delete a few lines or add a few
    lines in DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT and then try to install support
    for some device, the replaced lines will probably clobber
    something else in the file that has moved as a result of your
    addition or deletion.
    
    I'm working on the FT update stuff right now and it will probably
    use TPU and won't result in such a restrictive file for
    DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT.
152.7multiple devices of the same typeVAXUUM::KOHLBRENNERFri Mar 27 1987 16:2917
    The FT update installation for any device will let you specify
    pairs of names, the destination name that you will use on the command
    line and the queue name that corresponds to that destination.
    And it will keep asking you if you have another device of the
    same device-type and will ask for another pair of names if you
    say yes.  SO people who have more than one LN03 or more than
    one LPS40, LN01, etc, can give them different destination/queue
    names.
    
    THis procedure will not require position-sensitive lines in
    DOC$DESTINATIONS.DAT, so the file can be edited by those who
    more-or-less know what they are doing.  
    
    We haven't figured out whether we will provide a COM file for
    making modifications (add, modify, delete) or whether we'll just
    provide some documentation and let people edit it.