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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

1295.0. "RDB # of licenses vs Ingres" by STKHLM::KNORN (Stefan Knorn) Tue Sep 28 1993 16:05

    
    I'm writing a reply to a newspaper article, describing ODBC and
    databases vendors. Needless to say the article is not in favour
    of us. That's why I want to submit a reply.
    
    Among others the author mentions that the vendor dependant databases,
    Rdb and DB2, has a small number of licenses.
    
    I have a vague notion of having seen that RDB has more licenses than
    Ingres. Is this true ?
    
    Thanks
    
    Stefan

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1295.1		NOVA::BERENSON	Database Architecture, Standards, and Strategy	`Tue Sep 28 1993 18:43`	7
	Rdb has in excess of 40,000 licenses. I don't know what the other vendors have. DB2 doesn't have that many licenses though they are for larger systems. The dollar value of DB2 sales is (according to the latest I've seen) the same as that of Oracle sales. Others place the DB2 sales much higher.
1295.2		STKHLM::KNORN	Stefan Knorn	`Wed Sep 29 1993 10:09`	8
	>Rdb has in excess of 40,000 licenses. Hal, can this number be quoted externally ? Stefan
1295.3	What does that numbver say anyway?	IJSAPL::OLTHOF	What I need right now is vision	`Wed Sep 29 1993 10:29`	9
	re -2: And what types of licences are these (development, interactive, RT). In the old days we used to fight Oracle for having licence metrics that were useless. If these 40.000 include all NAS 250 and above licences, why not count all VMS licences? Playing devils advocate of course, Henny
1295.4		BROKE::SHAH	Amitabh "Leadership DECAF? Yuck!"	`Wed Sep 29 1993 14:28`	8
	Re. .2 >> Rdb has in excess of 40,000 licenses. > can this number be quoted externally ? Well, this number appeared in the latest issue of Digital News and Review, so it's fairly safe to quote it externall :-)
1295.5	40,000 "revenue units"	NOVA::BERENSON	Database Architecture, Standards, and Strategy	`Wed Sep 29 1993 19:01`	17
	That number includes all licenses for which Digital has received revenue. It does not include licenses packaged with the old VMS license (QL001 if I recall) since Digital did not receive revenue for them (VMS' price wasn't raised when Rdb run-time was packaged, and DBS was never credited for any revenue or license count). That means it does include current NAS 300 (?) package licenses. There are probably tens of thousands more systems actually using Rdb then show up in the number because there is little way to reliably tell if QL001 purchasers are using it or not. The 40,000 number no doubt includes some people who are not currently using Rdb as well. The bottom line is that Digital has received revenue for 40,000 copies of Rdb. Hal