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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

1291.0. "some market facts" by SSGV01::NEEDLEMAN () Tue Aug 31 1993 17:39

    
    from the recent Computer Reseller News
    Database Market Facts

    				Informix	Sybase	oracle	ask/Ingres
    major revenue segments
     % of total revenue
    tools			55%		47%	37%	15%
    engines			45		53	56	57
    applications		0		0	7	28

    revenue per employee	$196		$163	$144	$190
    assets per employee		$161		$129	$117	$149

    engine licenses
     installed base
    1991			274,420		12,220	122,700	22,900
    1992			350,020		30,220	163,700	31,200

    number of vars		
      and distributors		3,000		600	500	-

    revenue content
    international		53%		23%	64%	50%
    domestic 			47		77	36	50

    % of products
      supported by Unix		95%		75%	57%	54%



    				note:based upon 1992 results
    			         source:Salomon Brothers Inc.
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1291.1What are the trends?BROKE::HIGGSSQL is a camel in disguiseTue Aug 31 1993 20:4616
Interesting Barry.  One message I get is that the company with the lowest
engine/tool ratio (Informix) is the one with the highest revenue per employee
and the highest assets per employee, and the one with the highest ratio
(Oracle) has the lowest.  Not that I have high confidence in the statistical
significance of the sample, of course.  And based on these figures, ASK/INGRES
looks in better shape than Sybase and Oracle, which I have a hard time
believing.

What would your interpretations be?


What might be even more interesting is what the trends are;  is each of these
vendors expanding the tools segment? applications segment? and what are the
revenue and assets trends for each?

Bryan
1291.2some impressionsSSGV01::NEEDLEMANWed Sep 01 1993 19:0130
re .1
    
>Interesting Barry.  One message I get is that the company with the lowest
>engine/tool ratio (Informix) is the one with the highest revenue per employee
>and the highest assets per employee, and the one with the highest ratio
    
    
    I think rev/employee may have more to do with 3,000 VARS
    
    
>(Oracle) has the lowest.  Not that I have high confidence in the statistical
>significance of the sample, of course.  And based on these figures, ASK/INGRES
    
    soloman brothers is PROBABLY a better source than dataquest or gartner
    for this type of data...

>What would your interpretations be?
    
    well, to start, i do not see consulting $ and that skews my answers.
    informix engines include c-isam i guess, so that their numbers are also
    suspect from a DB vendor point of view.
    
    I note the growth of sybase and ingres engines at Oracles expense..
    I wonder if it implies international unix servers revenues are also
    growing fast...
    
    well, that is my initial impressions.
    
    B
1291.3CSC32::S_MAUFEthis space for rentWed Sep 01 1993 19:2013
    
    some nioce person sent me a European Freelance magaizine listing
    contracts available, the database jobs broke down as
    
    60% sybase
    30% oracle
    5% others
    5% rdb
    
    So either there are a lot of deccies on the market so there's no need
    to advertise, or there aren't a whole heck of a lot of rdb sites!
    
    Simon
1291.4lies, damned lies, and statisticsMSDOA::SECRISTLet me show you the future.Wed Sep 01 1993 20:0916
	; some nioce person sent me a European Freelance magaizine listing
	; contracts available, the database jobs broke down as
	;     
	; 60% sybase
	; 30% oracle
	; 5% others
	; 5% rdb
	;     
	; So either there are a lot of deccies on the market so there's no need
	; to advertise, or there aren't a whole heck of a lot of rdb sites!

...or Rdb simply performs better than everyone else and therefore
requires less outside consulting ;-)

rcs