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| 1277.1 | You're either a commodity or an anachronism | MSDOA::SECRIST | Behind the eight ball. | Thu Aug 12 1993 19:32 | 19 |
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Unfortunately the question is not whether we have the world's
leading high-performance, robust, quality database for production
systems... it's simply whether Digital gets the money or not.
If we could focus customers on safe decisions that will get the
work done instead of amorphous, vendor-neutral "open systems"
the decision to go with Rdb would be a no-brainer. Unfortunately
since we now sell more PCs in this country than cars, the flood of
technically unsophisticated neophytes into our industry is sending
us awash in a sea of drivel and hype. No one will introduce anything
new for want of "clear industry standards," which plays right into
Microsoft's hands since anything they do is a "sure thing."
In the 90s, you're either a commodity or you're nothing.
Regards,
rcs
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| 1277.2 | I doubt he reads this notesfile | NOVA::SWONGER | Rdb Software Quality Engineering | Thu Aug 12 1993 22:10 | 4 |
| So, has anybody actually sent anything like .0 to Gareth Taube? If
so, have you received a response?
Roy
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| 1277.3 | | NOVA::SWONGER | Rdb Software Quality Engineering | Thu Aug 12 1993 22:12 | 4 |
| Another thought - do you think anybody would get the message if Rdb
contacted the Database Partners Program and asked to join?
Roy
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| 1277.4 | if Gareth Taube reads his mail ... | BRSDVP::ALLEMEERSCH | In Flanders fields ... | Fri Aug 13 1993 10:51 | 5 |
| Re. .2
I have mailed Gareth Taube an extract of the base note ...
_Luc
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| 1277.5 | Flogging a dead horse? | SIERAS::WALLIS | Barry Wallis, DTN 536-2060: Dreamer...Owner...Doer | Fri Aug 13 1993 18:59 | 11 |
| Do you think Gareth Taube has any reason to promote Rdb? It seems that
the (Third Party) Database Partners Program office is specifically
geared for non-Digital databases (and seemingly biased towards those
that run on UNIX). Maybe when Rdb is hipping a production version on
OSF/1 they will be interested. And then again, maybe not!
All in all, it's a shame they have money for marketing while we cripple
our own database group in that area.
- Barry
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| 1277.6 | ditto on performance space | BROKE::SHAH | Amitabh "Drink DECAF: Commit Sacrilege" | Fri Aug 13 1993 21:20 | 9 |
| Re. .5
> All in all, it's a shame they have money for marketing while we cripple
> our own database group in that area.
It's a similar story in the performance space. Third party db's get
plenty of time on our machines to do performance testing (and the time
on these huge configurations costs a LOT), while the performance group
working on Rdb performance gets much less time on them.
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| 1277.7 | size vs effectiveness | MEMIT::SILVERBERG_M | Mark Silverberg MLO1-5/B98 | Sat Aug 14 1993 18:06 | 7 |
| Rdb has the entire Production Systems Marketing, Product Management and
Engineering resources behind it, and ALL the 3rd parties have a single
small program office behind them. What I hear is a commentary on the
effectiveness of each resource pool.
Mark
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| 1277.8 | Mark is off base | NOVA::BERENSON | Database Architecture, Standards, and Strategy | Sun Aug 15 1993 15:17 | 11 |
| Don't give me this small program office nonsense. To the same extent
that Rdb has the "Production Systems" PM&M resources going to bat for it,
The third parties have all the marketing muscle of the entire ALPHA
marketing group and CSG engineering behind them.
But Mark is right on one point, ever since Database Marketing was
dissolved and the remnants shuffled from one new PM&M group to another,
its effectiveness has been nil. Rose Ann Giordano is the person who has
to fix that.
Hal
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| 1277.9 | I am Oracle now :-) | BACHUS::ALLEMEERSCH | In Flanders fields ... | Thu Feb 23 1995 14:10 | 4 |
| Just wanted to let you know that, being part of the 'final solution',
I am still with Rdb knocking in the trenches, and happy to do so.
_Luc
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