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Title: | DEC Rdb against the World |
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Moderator: | HERON::GODFRIND |
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Created: | Fri Jun 12 1987 |
Last Modified: | Thu Feb 23 1995 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1348 |
Total number of notes: | 5438 |
1233.0. "Have you seen this Oracle advertisement?" by BOUVS::OAKEY (Assume is *my* favorite acronym) Wed Feb 24 1993 00:41
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If you have seen any advertisements (particularily not in Australia)
which sound similar to the following please let Mike Brey (COOKIE::BREY,
DTN 522-3428) know. If similar advertisements have appeared in other
countries, this would be additional information that can be provided to
the TPC. This is an extract of a mail message sent to a TPC interest
list.
While there is a possibility that this does violate the TPC Fair Use
Policies, no official decision would be made until the April TPC meeting
at the earliest. Even if TPC finds Oracle in violation of the Fair Use
Policies, public disclosure of the violation can only be made by the TPC.
A Digital employee in Australia has brought to my attention an Oracle ad
in the 2/22/93 Canberra Times which I believe violates the TPC Fair Use
Policies. The large ad is titled ORACLE 7. NUMBER 1 in Database
Performance". In the ad ORACLE compared their newest TPC-A result on the
HP 9000 Model 890 C/S system with six other TPC-A resuls. Some of the
results had been withdrawn.
Summary of ORACLE Advertisement:
Name of Database TPS $/TPS Systems Submitted-Withdrawn
date
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Informix 173.2 $15,868 HP 870S/400 3/16/92 - 10/9/92
Rdb 208.8 $9,172 VAX 6640 c/s 7/8/92 - 11/9/92
Allbase 145.0 $12,963 HP 3000 992/100 9/9/92 - 11/23/92
DMS 272.5 $43,190 Unisys A16-61E 5/15/91
ORACLE 710.4 $8,258 HP 9000 890 c/s 2/3/93
TIP/FCSS 228.5 $28,053 Unisys 2200/462 4/15/92
Sybase 183.3 $8,686 Sequent S2000/250 9/14/91
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Current results were available for the three withdrawn results. ORACLE
could have used the following:
Informix 153.13 $9,135 HP 9000 S800 H50 12/8/92
Rdb 208.8 $8,574 VAX 6640 c/s 11/9/92
Allbase 150.6 $8,879 HP 3000 977 10/23/92
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I believe the Oracle ad violates the following TPC Fair Use Policies:
7.5.1 (b) It is Unfair Use for publicity to:
(3) Use TPC results, from whatever source, unless the relevant
Full Disclosure Report is on file with the TPC
Administrator.
(12) Refer to a withdrawn result without specifically stating
that the result is withdrawn and no longer represents an
official TPC result.
In addition, the ad only specifies the name of the database, the "tps", and
"cost/tps". It does not specify the name of the systems (e.g., VAX 6000
Model 640 C/S) or the date of the results (e.g., TPC results as of
February 12, 1993). It does not even indicate if they are TPC-A or TPC-B
results. Although I don't see any specific TPC policy that requires this
information to be published in advertisements, I would like to recommend
that the policies be modified to require it.
Finally, the ad says that the results were "audited by the independent
Transaction Processing Council." As we know, the TPC does not "audit"
results and we are the Transaction Processing Performance Council.
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