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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

1228.0. "Rdb on Windows NT?" by OSLACT::OLAV (Do it in parallel!) Wed Feb 10 1993 09:14

Almost all the serious database vendors have announced plans for a Windows NT
product to the public (with dates). I have tried to get some information for Rdb
with no luck. What are the plans?

Olav
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1228.1Futures are generally not discussed...BOUVS::OAKEYAssume is *my* favorite acronymWed Feb 10 1993 20:2514
�            <<< Note 1228.0 by OSLACT::OLAV "Do it in parallel!" >>>
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�Almost all the serious database vendors have announced plans for a Windows NT
�product to the public (with dates). I have tried to get some information for Rdb
�with no luck. What are the plans?

Olav,

You won't get futures in a public conference such as this.  I'd suggest 
that you contact Andy Schneider, the DEC Rdb Product Manager for specific 
details.  I believe that we have announced an intent to port to Windows NT 
and OSF/1.

1228.2GNROSE::HAGGERTYGIA EIS/SWS, Acton MA USAThu Feb 11 1993 22:413
    or talk to your local I.M. Partner who attended the Symposium - there
    were _some_ dates given out.
    
1228.3NOVA::FEENANJay Feenan Rdb/xxx EngineeringThu Feb 11 1993 22:573
We have announced that we will be porting to NT.  Dates have not been announced.

-Jay
1228.4CSC32::S_MAUFEthis space for rentWed Nov 03 1993 17:595
    
    customer just asked, will we put Rdb on Windows NT *AXP* or *INTEL*
    first? And what delay between the two?
    
    thanks ! Simon
1228.5AXP firstNOVA::BERENSONFri Nov 05 1993 03:008
>    customer just asked, will we put Rdb on Windows NT *AXP* or *INTEL*
>    first? And what delay between the two?

AXP.  Probably a 6-month delay to get to Intel since we need to rewrite
the internal code generator to have a "generic" mode that is interpretive
rather than a fully optimizing processor-specific code generator.

Hal
1228.6CSC32::S_MAUFEthis space for rentFri Nov 05 1993 17:054
    
    thanks Hal!
    
    Simon
1228.7Bliss on Intel ?!MSDOA::SECRISTFuture ain&#039;t what it used to be !Wed Nov 17 1993 22:179
;   AXP.  Probably a 6-month delay to get to Intel since we need to rewrite
;   the internal code generator to have a "generic" mode that is interpretive
;   rather than a fully optimizing processor-specific code generator.

Does this mean we're doing the front/back ends to put Bliss on Intel ?

Regards,
rcs
1228.8CSC32::S_MAUFEthis space for rentThu Nov 18 1993 17:477
    
    also, are we aiming for file level compatibility between the flavours
    of rdb? My customer was thinking of masteting CDROMs on the VMS, then
    weekly emailing the CDROMs to NT clients in the field. I said "uhhhmmm,
    he'd better talk to his salesrep" 8-)
    
    Simon
1228.9Well, the future is CNOVA::BERENSONFri Nov 19 1993 15:4116
re .7: Yes, I believe the BLISS group is doing this for internal
engineering use only.  Of course Rdb is also slowly moving to C, a
process that will dramatically accelerate over the coming year.

re .8: I don't consider that a goal of the Rdb project.  If other people
solved all the file system problems, it would not be too difficult to add
a special read-only on-disk structure to Rdb that could be generic across
all platforms and be held constant (or upward compatible) over time.
That is, you'd create a standard database and then run a utility which
converted it to this new interchange/archive format.  The resulting files
would be burned into the CDROM.  By the way, the Rdb on-disk structure is
identical for ALPHA and VAX (unlike ORACLE or other vendors) so you can
use the same database in a mixed architecture VMScluster.  I don't know
if the Alpha OSF/1 and NT versions will use the same structure.

Hal