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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

1197.0. "ALPHA & ORACLE: request for off-line info pls." by POWDML::SMCCONNELL (Next year, in JERUSALEM!) Thu Oct 08 1992 22:40

    Hi,
    
    I'm not sure this is the right place for this - but here goes:
    
    I work in the US Third Party Business & Acquisition group (USTPB&A) in
    Maynard, MA.  The organization in the Field has in the past (and
    continues to) acquire Oracle products when Customers demand they be
    used.  I have heard, however, that with the onset of Alpha products,
    Oracle products may not be as in demand as in the past.
    
    Now - as a non-technical person, I have NO way of knowing whether this
    is true and if so why.  I was hoping perhaps you all could shed some
    light on this.
    
    If this isn't the best notesfile for this, please tell me where to go
    (politely ;-).
    
    I'd prefer answers off-line to POWDML::SMCCONNELL if at all possible.
    
    Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide!
    
    Steve McConnell
    POWDML::SMCCONNELL
    
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1197.1More information pleaseTRCOA::MCMULLENKen McMullenFri Oct 09 1992 22:1521
    This is an appropriate notesfile, but you may also want to post this in
    the ORACLE notesfile.
    
    Who has started this interesting thought pattern. I am not sure that
    one could argue that a new hardware platform is going to decrease the
    sales of a software vendor's products? Is there more context to this?
    Is this just in reference to ORACLE sales on the ALPHA platform or will
    this be an industry trend? ALPHA may even help increase ORACLE
    revenues. Customers who have written their applications using ORACLE
    products and outgrown their current platform may move to ALPHA for more
    powere. They will have to re-license all of their products on ALPHA.
    This will be a nice little piece of business for ORACLE.
    
    ORACLE market share numbers are very high, and in the U*IX space they
    own more than 50% of the relational database market.
    
    By the way, if a customer demands ORACLE do you ever expolore the
    reasons? Sometimes the customers pre-disposition can be changed if you
    have a better alternative (which we do not always have).
    
    Ken McMullen
1197.2no reductions seen hereMRKTNG::SILVERBERGMark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3Mon Oct 12 1992 12:5114
    Given that ORACLE will be available on Alpha soon after we announce,
    that we want many applications available on Alpha (and Oracle helps
    us get there, as do other rdbms products, including Rdb), and that we
    have a number of very large performance-oriented opportunities in the
    UNIX market that require ORACLE support, I suspect there will not
    be a decrease in demand for ORACLE when we release Alpha AXT systems.
    You might want to talk with Kathy Appellof (decwet::appellof), the
    UNIX Database Product Manager about the current & future relationships
    being discussed with Oracle on the UNIX side of the business.  Tom
    Donahue from VSS (msbcs::donahue) might also be contacted regarding the
    OepnVMS position as well.
    
    Mark
    
1197.3Say what ?KCOHUB::DAZOFF::DUNCANWhen you see a quack, duck !Mon Oct 12 1992 20:2513
	Re: .0, we(Digital) better hope that Oracle comes out quick on 
	VMS and OSF/1.  There are a TON (ok, ok, a "short" ton) of CSOs
	who require Oracle {db | tools} in order to "enable" their applications.
	
	Give the timelines of our database products for non-VMS platforms, 
	I can't even imagine there being less demand for Oracle products.
	In an odd sort of way, IMO, we should be sucking up to Oracle big time
	and try to get them to throw as much business to Alpha platforms as
	possible (vs HP, IBM AIX, etc.).  

	We all need Alpha to go well.

	-- gerry
1197.4POWDML::SMCCONNELLNext year, in JERUSALEM!Mon Oct 12 1992 21:5113
    Ken, Mark & Gerry,
    
    Thanks very much for your information.
    
    re: .1
    
    I can't provide a better context for the question at this time.  I'll
    discuss with the two folks who brought it up to me and try to discuss
    with the contacts Mark listed in .2 (thanks, Mark!).
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Steve