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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

1117.0. "Oracle - Interoperate w/ other DBMS vendors" by AUNTB::CLARK () Fri Mar 20 1992 16:52

    Does Oracle interoperate with any other databases than their own other
    than DB2? I want to know if they interoperate with any other vendors
    database, but in particular I need to know if they interoperate with
    the OS/2 Data Manager?
    
    They are talking to my customer about how open they are cause they run
    on all platforms. I would like to point out to the customer that if
    they want to share data across all those platforms, they can only do it
    if they buy everything from Oracle .... which doesn't seem very open.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Sandy

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1117.1	I don't know the current list	COOKIE::BERENSON	Lex mala, lex nulla	`Fri Mar 20 1992 17:21`	10
	I don't know the list of who ORACLE interoperates with. However, the way they do it requires that you purchase ORACLE for every platform. That is, we can interoperate with DB2 through VIDA without you having to buy and run Rdb on your IBM system. The way ORACLE does it is that you purchase ORACLE for your IBM system and then from remote systems it does ORACLE=>ORACLE interactions with the IBM local ORACLE doing the IBM access locally. So, we are much less intrusive on systems that don't really want us there (and also, as a result, much less expensive). Hal
1117.2	Oracle says no Oracle DBMS required for DB2	AUNTB::CLARK		`Fri Mar 20 1992 19:59`	9
	My customer has told me that Oracle says they can interact with DB2 without putting the Oracle database on the mainframe. I told the customer that it was my understanding that Oracle did need their database on the mainframe. Now I wouldn't describe this customer as astute but I did tell him to ask the question specifically. Are you sure that Oracle needs their database on the mainframe for read or write access to DB2. Sandy
1117.3		COOKIE::BERENSON	Lex mala, lex nulla	`Fri Mar 20 1992 20:49`	7
	There is some lack of clarity on this point in the ORACLE material I've seen. I've seen implications that they can do read, but not write, without having ORACLE present on the IBM system. Also, they may have introduced new software since the last time I looked into this. You'd have to verify it with someone who pays lots of attention to ORACLE interoperability (which I sure don't).
1117.4	gateways are available	MRKTNG::SILVERBERG	Mark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3	`Mon Mar 23 1992 19:27`	8
	I believe the Oracle SQLConnect gateways provide links to DB2, SQL/DS TurboIMAGE and RMS without requiring the installation of the Oracle database on the target system. I believe you need Oracle Server for OS/2 and SQLNet DECnet for OS/2 or SQL*Net TCP/IP for OS/2 depending on the network protocol you use. Mark
1117.5		DATABS::NEEDLEMAN	today nas/is, tomorrow...	`Tue Apr 07 1992 00:03`	6
	i have been told by an oracle higher-up they have a link to Rdb but it is not in the price book. They only pull it out when the customer DEMANDS it. Barry