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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

1045.0. "ORACLE on Alpha before Rdb/VMS" by BIGUN::ANDERSON (The Unbearable Lightness of Being) Fri Dec 20 1991 00:58

Rumour heard here is that ORACLE is aiming to have the first RDBMS running on
Alpha, and will announce that fact prior to Alpha announcements.

(This is what they did with the VAX 9000 : it had not been announced but they
had a ad announcing support for the future large VAX).

Of course, poor old TNSG cannot probably announce Rdb/VMS on alpha until the
official alpha announcements....that time difference could be 6 months or more.
Its hard to catch up in the marketplace after 6 months.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1045.1	Hmmmm, tactics again ...	JENEVR::RLEE		`Fri Dec 20 1991 06:03`	5
	Star Trek VI: "Sir, a Lie?" "No, an Error."
1045.2		NOVA::FEENAN	Jay Feenan, Rdb/VMS engineering	`Fri Dec 20 1991 16:45`	5
	However we did give an Alpha Rdb/VMS talk at US Decus last week! People know what is going on. -Jay
1045.3	Because VSS is in the hardware business!	COOKIE::BERENSON	Lex mala, lex nulla	`Fri Dec 20 1991 18:09`	11
	It is most likely that every database vendor of any significance will have their system running on ALPHA at FRS. As a database engineer at Digital I wish we could have a lead on the 3rd parties. But, as a Digital employee and stockholder I'm quite happy about it. No better way to make sure ALPHA succeeds than to have all the key software being used on VAX/VMS available on it from day 1!!! Now, of course, ORACLE will do a better job at marketing the fact that they are on ALPHA from day 1 than we will. THAT is what bothers me. Hal
1045.4	marketing ? no !	DATABS::NEEDLEMAN	today nas/is, tomorrow...	`Mon Dec 23 1991 15:31`	7
	re .3 Hal do you mean marketing or advertising ;-) Barry
1045.5	They will out-market in all respects	COOKIE::BERENSON	Lex mala, lex nulla	`Mon Dec 23 1991 17:09`	6
	I mean both. No offense to the NAS Marketing folks, but ORACLE will go way beyond advertising to let people know they are somehow better than us. They'll be able to say things to their customers that our hierarchy will never let us say, or dispute for that matter. Hal
1045.6	Now we're PREDICTING Oracle's next jab!	DENVER::DAVISGB	Jag Mechanic	`Fri Jan 03 1992 01:48`	13
	Shades of Star Trek... "Mr. Ellison, wasn't that a lie?" "No, Mr. customer....an error." (I need to tune in here more often....) gil
1045.7	Oracle has fallen from grace	BROKE::THOMAS	Anne Thomas DTN 264-6094	`Tue Apr 07 1992 00:52`	3
	I've heard from an insider on the alpha project that Bill Demmer requested that they not talk to Oracle for the moment. It seems that Bill was a bit annoyed by recent advertisements.