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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

997.0. "Interoperability product called SQL EDA or EDA SQL?" by BAGLEY::FOSTER (Old RALLYator Sighted in Midwest) Fri Sep 27 1991 00:52

A customer asked me about a product called EDA SQL or SQL EDA, which IBM is
selling.  It supposedly allows communication between various flavors of SQL
on various platforms.  Anybody have any info?

The specific problem they have is applications running on HP workstations that
need to access Rdb/VMS databases on a VAX.  Any ideas on that score would also
be appreciated.

David F.
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997.1Developed for IBM by IBI?MBALDY::LANGSTONThe secret is strong ears.Fri Sep 27 1991 23:005
Is that what IBM is calling the database interoperability piece, which was
developed for them by IBI, that they announced last week as part of their
openness?

Bruce
997.2Not an IBM productBROKE::THOMASAnne Thomas DTN 264-6094Mon Oct 07 1991 23:4830
I think Bruce is right.  EDA SQL is a component of IBM's Information 
Warehouse.  IBM is proposing that you consolidate and format all of 
your heterogeneous data into a single DB2 database, and then make this 
database available to the end-users.  (This sounds remarkably like our
own Data Warehouse concept -- IBM just shouted louder than we did.)  
In any case IBM doesn't sell EDA SQL.  EDA SQL is more of a concept 
than anything else.  I believe that IBI is providing the functionality.

Of course people have been using FOCUS for years for just this purpose,
and it applies to Rdb as well as it applies to DB2.

You can compete with a DB2 based Information Warehouse very easily.
In order to support a DB2 warehouse, you need an expensive S/370 or
S/390 machine (a 9370 isn't likely to be powerful enough).  Then you 
have to hire a staff of systems programmers to care for the MVS system,
and you have to hire a staff of DBAs to care for the DB2 system, plus 
you have to hire a few FOCUS programmers to write the applications which
extract and consolidate the data into DB2.

If you attempted to build the same warehouse on Rdb, you might need to 
hire a systems administrator, but chances are your existing systems 
administrator could handle another machine, and you might need to hire 
a DBA and the same number of FOCUS programmers, but all in all, the 
solution is much cheaper on the VAX.

But your real advantage is the NAS Open Advantage.  There are so many
tools available on the desktop platforms which talk directly to Rdb, 
including Lotus 1-2-3 and Borland's Paradox, not to mention DECquery.

Anne