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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

960.0. "INGRES vs Rdb: Performance?" by BER::MOENCH (Andreas Moench @BEO, Berlin) Mon Jul 22 1991 12:09

      Hello world -

      we need some advice concerning INGRES performance vs. Rdb.
      
      A partner (PSI, a CSO in Berlin) started developing an application using
      INGRES and INGRES-Tools (4gl, Forms) on a VAX 6000-310 (VMS). 
      They are experiencing severe performance problems. 
      For comparison reasons, they did a little benchmark (two simple insert
      statements) using Rdb vs Ingres (no 4gl, just plain SQL). In this simple
      comparison Rdb performed 5 times faster than INGRES.

      As they were forced by theit customer to use INGRES in this project, 
      they now need advice if Rdb can be considered faster on VMS than INGRES.
      If so, they would try to convince their customer to switch over to Rdb.

      Well, I know a comparison depends on the DB-Design, the kind of 
      application, configuration etc. What I would like yo know: are there 
      some simple, rule of thump figures comparing INGRES vs. Rdb performance?

      Also, it would be interesting to here about conversions of a INGRES-Tools
      application from INGRES-DB to Rdb.
      If Rdb is faster than INGRES in generall, does this hold true in a 
      INGRES-Tools environment?

      OK - any hints, informations, experience on this matter would be highly
      appreciated!

      Andreas
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960.1LOOK IN INGRES_TOOLS_FOR_RDBTRCOA::MCMULLENKen McMullenMon Jul 22 1991 21:331
    Also look in NOVA::INGRES_TOOLS_FOR_RDB
960.2already done...BER::MOENCHAndreas Moench @BEO, BerlinTue Jul 23 1991 09:428
re.-1
>>    Also look in NOVA::INGRES_TOOLS_FOR_RDB

Sorry, I forgott to mention: this topic was crossposted there...

Thanks for the hint!

Andreas
960.3INGRES vs Rdb PerformanceCOOKIE::RDOWNSTue Jul 30 1991 00:5616
    I have done a very thorough comparison of INGRES vs ORACLE vs Rdb on
    the 6310 for the "Order-Entry Workload", and the results show INGRES to
    be very inferior to ORACLE on the OLTP portion of the workload while
    ORACLE is itself inferior to Rdb. For the End-User computing (EUC)
    portion of the workload, INGRES is very inferior to both Rdb and 
    ORACLE, which are about equal. The numbers and complete results are in
    a report titled "INGRES, ORACLE and Rdb, ORDER ENTRY WORKLOAD TEST
    RESULTS" by Rudolph Downs and Francois Raab. This report is now in
    distribution. For a copy , please send mail to COOKIE::MCMINN.
    
    Thanks,
    Rudy Downs
    COOKIE::RDOWNS
    CXN1/6 Colorado Springs, USA.
    
    
960.4WHO301::BOWERSDave Bowers @WHOFri Nov 01 1991 22:1511
My personal experience has been that INGRES is slower than Rdb, and especially
for queries where the effort of parsing the SQL (which they do at runtime) 
becomes significant vs. the ttime to retrieve the data.

INGRES tools on Rdb take a serious performance hit because of the need to 
replicate in large part the INGRES metadata.  This causes metadata references 
to be a lot more complex than the Rdb equivalent, since they need to go through
both their stuff and ours to get to the data.  I've also seen problems caused 
by their inability to deal with simple deadlock and lock conflict errors.

-dave