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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

937.0. "Lotus 1-2-3 to Rdb to DATACOM" by DPDMAI::HYDE (Rdb �ber alles OKO 487-2256) Thu Jun 06 1991 20:45

    I'll be going on a sales call this afternoon.  
    
    Here's what we are proposing to replace their PC-based R-Base and
    Lotus 1-2-3 applications:
    
      Lotus 1-2-3 for VAX/VMS
      RdbVMS
      TEAMDATA
    
    Now, we have a fly in the ointment.  The sales rep just told me that
    the customer has inquired about connecting their PC's (May be Macs or 
    IBM PC's) to their DATACOM database.  (I'll inquire this afternoon if
    their DATACOM database is related to their R-Base databases.)  This 
    could be via the VAX we're proposing or possibly via a direct
    connection.  I believe the only access to DATACOM databases would be 
    read-only, rather than the read and write access we could give to Rdb 
    databases.  I'm curious if we could connect two connectivity products 
    (PC-VAX & VAX-IBM) and allow access to a DATACOM database from within 
    a Lotus spreadsheet on a PC.
    
    If we can make the connection(s), then so be it.  But if we can't, or
    if they must have read and write access to the database, I'd prefer to 
    go with our proposal as it stands above, perhaps adding read access to
    the DATACOM database.
    
    Any advice?
    
    
                                          Kurt

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
937.1	dBASE IV or RALLY for ad hoc DB design?	DPDMAI::HYDE	Rdb �ber alles OKO 487-2256	`Fri Jun 07 1991 16:45`	21
	The customer request for a link from Lotus 1-2-3 (PC) to DATACOM (IBM 370) was an alternative to their plan to migrate their application to VAX VMS. It appears now that the strategy from above in this account is to migrate to VAX VMS. While the programming manager and I were talking bits and bytes, the sales rep and the decision maker above were discussing strategy. So that request for a link is about � byte from the bit bucket. They would like a replacement for R:BASE for their 6 people who use it to design ad hoc databases. Apparently, it has menu-based database definition. I don't believe R:BASE is available on VMS. We're requesting a demo of dBASE IV and RALLY at the ACT. Any suggestions? Is dBASE IV a good strategy? Are RALLY menus for database design similar to R:BASE? Kurt
937.2		KOBAL::KIRK	I've lost my hidden agenda!	`Fri Jun 07 1991 19:39`	5
	Kurt, RALLY does have a menu driven database definition tool. Richard
937.3	In answer to the original question	BROKE::THOMAS		`Thu Jun 20 1991 20:22`	9
	Although you're no longer interested in accessing DATACOM from the PC, I figured I'd answer the question anyway. CA-DATACOM/DB is an IBM-based database system, running on DOS/VSE, VM, and MVS. We do not provide an RdbAccess interoperability tool to DATACOM, therefore we can't provide direct access to DATACOM from a PC-based tool using SQL/Services. DATACOM data would need to be extracted and downloaded to the VAX before it could be made available to the desktop.
937.4	How about 3rd party	TRCOA::MCMULLEN	Ken McMullen	`Wed Jan 08 1992 17:00`	4
	Ann, Do you know if any third party solutions like Sterling would be useful in this.
937.5	note 836	TRCOA::MCMULLEN	Ken McMullen	`Wed Jan 08 1992 17:09`	1
	I just read note 836 that offers some potential solutions. Any others?