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| 843.1 | Can you spell IBM? | BROKE::HIGGS | SQL is a camel in disguise | Sun Jan 20 1991 18:14 | 1 |
| Conspicuously absent, you will note, is Big Blue...
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| 843.2 | Online specs? | TRCO01::BROWN | RPC - Really Practical Computing | Tue Jan 22 1991 05:24 | 11 |
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>> Specifications for the SQL Access Application Program Interface
>> and the SQL Access File Access Protocol are complete. Members
>> of the consortium are now developing prototypes which will be
>> demonstrated at an Interoperability Trade Show scheduled for
>> June 1991.
Any online copy of the specifications? and/or what our demo will
show/consist of?
-ian
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| 843.3 | Sybase submits standard? | POBOX::LACEY | ACMS/Rdb, the transaction Autobahn | Tue Jan 22 1991 21:23 | 5 |
| Sybase says there "tabular interchange protocol" has been accepted by
the OSF as the standard. How this this fit in with SQL Access &
SQL-Services?
_Paul
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| 843.4 | Sorry -- no online spec | BROKE::THOMAS | | Wed Jan 23 1991 21:15 | 8 |
| X/Open will be publishing the SQL Access technical spec in the
X/Open Portability Guide Version 4 (XPG4), expected in 3/91.
The Prototype Press Demonstration has just been rescheduled for
July, 1991. At this demo, all Producing members will demonstrate
the SQL Access Client and/or Server that they have developed.
There will be many types of hardware and software systems,
connected through OSI, all speaking to one another.
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| 843.5 | Update on SQL Access Membership | BROKE::THOMAS | | Wed Jan 23 1991 22:08 | 34 |
| SQL Access membership is growing quickly -- approximately 2-3 new
member join every month. As of January's meeting, here's the most
current list of SQL Access members:
Producers (15) Reviewers (18)
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Cincom Systems, Inc Apple Computer, Inc
Digital Equipment Corp Ashton-Tate
Fujitsu Bull, H.N.
Hewlett Packard DB/Access
Informix Dupont Information Systems
Lotus Fulcrum Technologies
Metaphor Gupta Technologies
Microsoft Corp Infocenter
NCR Ingres Corp
Oracle Corp Locus Computing Corp
Sun Microsystems MCC Technology Corp
Sybase Micro Decisionware, Inc
Tandem Computers Microrim
Teradata Novell, Inc
Unify Corporation Progress Software
Retrix
Software Technologies
Sterling Software
(notable omissions are IBM and Computer Associates)
SQL Access also has formal relationships with the associated standards
bodies, including:
ANSI SQL2 Committee (X3H2)
ANSI RDA (X3H2.1)
Open Systems Foundation (OSF)
X/Open
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| 843.6 | Is Sybase really going to be a standard? | VAOU02::NJOHNSON | Westcoast Wiz | Mon Jan 28 1991 03:28 | 5 |
| Could someone address the claim that Sybase has had their standards
accepted by the OSF committee?
Thanks,
Neil
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| 843.7 | look elsewhere | NOVA::NEEDLEMAN | no good deed goes unpunished | Tue Jan 29 1991 15:17 | 4 |
| try in the OSF conference ?
SSGBPM::OSF
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| 843.8 | Sybase are digging themselves a credibility hole | BROKE::ASHELL::WATSON | patience is a virtue | Thu Jan 31 1991 18:00 | 15 |
| I know that Sybase are claiming that SQL/Access have adopted their API.
This is not true. Here are the facts:
o Digital, Microsoft and Sybase worked together on an API called SQL
Connectivity. (Lotus were also in this group at one point.)
o Each of the three vendors contributed to SQL Connectivity.
o SQL Access voted to make the SQL Connectivity API the basis for the
SQL Access API. (Overwhelming victory over the Oracle candidate.)
o So, by the time SQL Access publish an API, it will look like the
SQL Connectivity API - but it is very unlikely to be identical to
it.
o Hence the Sybase API is really just one of several grandparents of
the yet-to-be-born SQL Access API.
Andrew.
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| 843.9 | and we helped.. | DATABS::JOEDAD::NEEDLEMAN | no good deed goes unpunished | Fri Feb 01 1991 14:42 | 7 |
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The Feb. edition of DBMS magazine has an interview with Micro
Decisionware's Richard Hackathorn. He releases a lot of data around the
client API issues.
Barry
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| 843.10 | Reply .5 is not completely accurate | COOKIE::MELTON | The zen of character sets | Mon Feb 04 1991 19:54 | 31 |
| Sorry, 'tain't so!
SQL Access also has formal relationships with the associated standards
bodies, including:
ANSI SQL2 Committee (X3H2)
ANSI RDA (X3H2.1)
Open Systems Foundation (OSF)
X/Open
There exists *no* possible mechanism for SQL Access to have a "formal
relationship" with either ANSI X3H2 or X3H2.1. There are, in fact, a
number of companies that are members of SAG that also have representatives
on the X3H2 and/or X3H2.1 committees, but ANSI rules do not permit a
*formal* relationship between an ANSI Technical Committee (e.g., X3H2) or
Task Group (e.g., X3H2.1) and a consortium (e.g., SAG).
However, the overlap in membership is significant and quite important.
That implies that X3H2 and X3H2.1 get input that effectively originates in
SAG and that SAG pays close attention to the formal standards process.
The relationship between SAG and X/Open has been long-standing but is
still (to my knowledge, at least) not formalized. The apparent reason is
that Roger Sippl, chairman/president/? of SAG and also chairman/etc. of
Informix, has failed to sign the contract between X/Open and SAG, although
X/Open signed the contract over a year ago. No information has surface
that explains to my satisfaction why Roger hasn't signed the contract, but
he apparently claims that the "board" hasn't approved it. Strange...
Thanks,
Jim
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| 843.11 | Unisys (Burroughs) membership? | IJSAPL::OLTHOF | Henny Olthof @UTO 838-2021 | Wed Mar 13 1991 14:27 | 7 |
| SQL Access plays a key role in making the Information Network happen.
My customer who uses UNISYS machines (Burroughs) wants to know if
they are present in SQL Access. I did not find their name in note .0
and .5.
Thanks,
Henny Olthof, TP-DB Netherlands
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| 843.12 | I want to watch!!! | OFFPLS::HODGES | | Wed Mar 13 1991 23:25 | 4 |
| re: a few back. . . .
What is the 'trade show' in July where all of this can be demonstrated
and can 'mere mortals' attend?
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| 843.13 | Lastest membership list | BROKE::THOMAS | | Thu Mar 28 1991 20:55 | 23 |
| As of 3/91: <P> = Producer
Apple Gupta Novell
Ashton-Tate HP <P> Oracle <P>
ASK (Ingres) <P> Infocentre Progress
Boeing Informix <P> Retix
Borland Locus Software AG
Bull Lotus <P> Sterling Software
Cincom <P> MCC <P> Sun Microsystems <P>
DB Access Metaphor Sybase <P>
DEC <P> Micro Decisionware Tandem <P>
du Pont Microrim Teradata <P>
Fujitsu <P> Microsoft <P> Unify
Fulcrum NCR <P> Unisys <P>
Others who are interested, but have not yet committed:
Bell Northern Research Micro Focus Racal-Milgo
British Telecom Research Mimer Software AB RAIMA
COGNOS MIPS Computer Santa Cruz Operation
Coromandel Industries Nucleus International Software Products Intl
Honeywell OEI
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| 843.14 | it is real | DATABS::DATABS::NEEDLEMAN | today nas/is, tomorrow... | Wed May 08 1991 18:24 | 6 |
| re .12
As of today, the event is currently planned in the summer and it is a
press event, not a public gathering -sorry
Barry
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| 843.15 | SQL Access Announcement | CIMNET::BOURDEAU | Rich Bourdeau CIM Product Marketing | Thu May 23 1991 20:02 | 179 |
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----- SQL Access first to demonstrate
|C I S| multivendor and
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SANTA CLARA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--The SQL Access Group, a
consortium of leading database software and hardware companies, will
demonstrate multi-vendor database interoperability for the first time
in the industry this July.
The demonstration, to be held in New York, will show a prototype of
the recently completed Phase I technical specification. The
association also outlined its technical direction beyond the upcoming
demonstration.
``We're please with the progress made towards our goal of enabling
front-end clients and database servers to work together,'' said Roger
Sippl, chairman of the SQL Access Group. ``The SQL Access Group will
continue to address technology that meets the evolving needs of the
user in the area of database interoperability.''
In other news, the Phase I technical specification will be published
by X/Open Consortium Ltd. to provide a preliminary look at the
technology. Also, seven new companies have joined the association
bringing the membership to 40.
Phase I demonstration
The interoperability demonstration will show tools from different
vendors talking to a number of other vendors' databases in a simulated
real-world environment where multiple clients and servers will exchange
information.
``For the vision of interoperability to be fulfilled, users must be
able to access any database on the network with equal ease. The
demonstration of our prototype is the first step toward offering users
a solution for true database interoperability,'' said Jeff Balboni,
chairman of the joint technical committee.
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----- SQL Access first to demonstrate | 21-MAY-91
|C I S| multivendor and | Business Wire
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For 18 months, the SQL Access Group has focused on development of
technical specifications, based on standards, that will enable multiple
front-end clients and back-end database servers to work together.
The Phase I work includes an embedded Structured Query Language
(SQL) specification for application portability and OSI Remote Database
Access for database interoperability.
Phase II work
Now that Phase I specifications have been set, the group is
addressing other technologies pertaining to interoperability including
user requirements in the areas of the Call Level Interface and TCP/IP
support.
Phase II work will include a Call Level Interface subroutine
library and TCP/IP networking support for databases and tools.
According to Balboni, addressing the Call Level Interface is
important because some programmers prefer a subroutine style of
programming to an embedded SQL interface when developing relational
database management system applications. TCP/IP support is significant
because it is the most widely used networking protocol.
Meanwhile, the new members are Boeing Computer Services, Borland
International, British Telecom, MCC, Mimer Software AB, Uniface and
Unisys Corp.
The SQL Access Group, founded in 1989, is a non-profit corporation
proliferating technical specifications that will enable multiple
SQL-based relational databases and tools to work together.
The group is not a standards organization, but a consortium of 40
leading companies intent on accelerating research underway by such
standards groups as the American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
and the International Standards Organization (ISO). The association is
open to both vendors and users. The members are:
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*T
o Apple Computer Corp. o Metaphor
o Ashton-Tate o Micro Decisionware
o ASK Inc. o Microrim
o Boeing Computer Services o Microsoft Corp.
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----- SQL Access first to demonstrate | 21-MAY-91
|C I S| multivendor and | Business Wire
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o Borland International o Mimer Software AB
o British Telecom Research o NCR Corp.
o Bull HN Information Systems Inc. o Novell Inc.
o Cincom Systems o Oracle Corp.
o DB Access o Progress Software Corp.
o Digital Equipment Corp. o Retix
o Du Pont Information Systems o Software AG
o Fujitsu America Inc. o Sterling Software
o Fulcrum Technologies Inc. o Sun Microsystems
o GUPTA Technologies o Sybase Inc.
o Hewlett-Packard Co. o Tandem Computers Inc.
o Infocentre Corp. o Teradata Corp.
o Informix Software Inc. o Uniface
o Locus Computing Corp. o Unify Corp.
o Lotus Development Corp. o Unisys Corp.
o MCC o X/Open Consortium Ltd.
*T
The SQL Access Group is a registered association mark of the SQL
Access Group. All other companies and products mentioned in this
document are protected by appropriate trademarks.
( 3 )
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| 843.16 | So what does this mean to DEC users? | SNOMAN::AARON | Doing DECnet...PCSA...LanW...PATHWORKS since v1! | Fri Jun 21 1991 00:55 | 8 |
| How does the standard relate to SQL/Services? Will this be an easy migration
path for our customers? Is there a corporate message that we can deliver?
Sure, it looks like we've driven this technology (along with Microsoft and
Sybase), but that doesn't answer the question...
Inquiring minds want to know,
Aaron
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| 843.17 | The Open Advantage | BROKE::THOMAS | | Thu Jul 11 1991 00:28 | 18 |
| SQL Access establishes a standard format and protocol for remote data
access. It performs the same functions as both SQL/Services and our
RdbAccess/VIDA products. We will certainly provide an easy migration/
cohabitation path between SQL Access and SQL/Services. SQL Access
makes life easier for our customers. They can go out and buy Lotus
1-2-3 or Borland Paradox or Joe Blow's WonderGizmo and all these tools
will speak the same generic language (SQL Access) and be able to access
all the databases the customer might have (with a few exceptions).
In addition, Rdb applications will be able to transparently access data
from all those same databases. Our CSOs and ISVs will be happy,
because they only have to write their systems once using SQL Access,
and they don't need to port to xxx different systems.
The corporate message here is that Digital provides the Open Advantage
(Have you seen this message in our recent advertising?). Digital
supports industry standards because it makes life easier for our
customers. Standards will never exist unless major forces (like DEC,
HP, and Tandem in this case) get together to create the standard.
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| 843.18 | SQL Access demo a big success! | BROKE::LOMARTIRE | ING(DBS) SI and I14Y � 264-6164 | Thu Jul 25 1991 22:43 | 141 |
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SQL Access Group Debuts Database Interoperability Prototype
Congratulations to the RdbStar:Link to SQL Access Team!
On Tuesday, July 16, "the first step towards universal database
access" was successfully taken. The SQL Access Group, a con-
sortium founded in 1989 by Digital, Ask/Ingres, Tandem, Sun
and Hewlett-Packard which now consists of 42 leading systems
and software vendors, held a press event and demonstration of
the Phase I Technical Specification at the Plaza Hotel in New
York. The Phase I Specification describes a standard API for
client/server database communication using embedded SQL and
ISO/OSI network connectivity. It was developed in conjunction
with industry standards from ANSI, ISO and X/OPEN and is now
being published by X/OPEN as part of its XPG4 specification.
The event was attended by over 70 consultants, analysts and
press members, as well as many of the SQL Access members. The
entire event went exceptionally well and was well received by
the attendees. Several articles praising the event have already
appeared in Digital Review, Information Week and UNIX Today.
The following SQL Access Group member companies, and their prod-
ucts, were represented in the demo. The demo highlighted exam-
ples of various clients working with different servers, showing
that data entered from one client application was immediately
available to another, even though the clients and the database
management system were from different vendors.
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Company________________Client__________________Server___________
ASK/Ingres Windows 4GL
Cincom Systems MANTIS
Digital DECquery Rdb/VMS
SQL/Services
Fujitsu RDB II
Hewlett-Packard NewWave Access HP ALLBASE/SQL
Informix and Wingz Informix Online
Unisys
MCC Object Oriented Research Prototype
Microsoft EXCEL
NCR and Sybase SYBASE SQL Server
Oracle SQL*Forms/Menu ORACLE RDBMS
Oracle Graphics
Sun SimplifySQL
Tandem NonStop SQL
Teradata DBC/1012
Unify ACCELL/SQL
________________________________________________________________
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Congratulations to those from Digital who put in so much to
make this event such a success: Scott Newman, Bill McGuire, Jeff
Balboni, Bob Lomme, Linda Kipnes, D'Aun Bowers, Vickie Farrell,
Barry Needleman and Bill Beauregard.
Digital will be sponsoring the SQL Access Lab for Phase II at
the San Francisco Systems Center. Phase II of SQL Access will
consist of:
o Call Level Interface - SQL/Connectivity
o TCP/IP Support
The first products from Digital based on SQL Access are planned
for announcement in October. There will be a project announce-
ment of the SQL Access Server for Rdb/VMS and a program an-
nouncement of the SQL Access Server for ULTRIX/SQL at the Open
Advantage II event.
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| 843.19 | SQL_Access notes conference. | BROKE::MCGUIRE | | Wed Sep 25 1991 05:14 | 3 |
| SQL Access now has a notes conference of its own: broke::sql_access. Hit
KP7 to add it. For your convenience this note string has been transplanted
there as note 11.
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